[RP TownTalk] Land Value Tax Calculator (fwd)
bruce.wernek at mindspring.com
bruce.wernek at mindspring.com
Fri Apr 14 12:08:42 UTC 2006
I would prefer if Cafritz left the property undeveloped. It's a nice place to take the dogs (or kids) for a walk. I suggest folks in the reading audience take the time to do a walk about. Just walk the trolley right of way (section which starts under the east/west highway bridge) north until you see the metro rail fence. From there go west.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Thompson & Sarah Wayland <twacks at his.com>
>Sent: Apr 13, 2006 7:36 PM
>To: TownTalk <towntalk at riverdale-park.org>
>Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Land Value Tax Calculator (fwd)
>
>Roland mentioned that he thought Land Value Taxation would have its
>strongest effect on the Cafritz property. Even that property really
>doesn't have much of an incentive under LVT.
>
>The Cafritz property is 28.24 acres (1,230,134.4 square feet),
>currently owned by Calvin Cafritz, sitting across Route One from
>University Park in a prime location, and completely undeveloped. He
>currently pays the following in taxes:
>
>STATE: $1144
>COUNTY: $6959
>MUNICIPAL: $5868
>
>Under a Land Value Taxation scheme, Mr. Cafritz would pay:
>
>STATE: $3294
>COUNTY: $10,299
>MUNICIPAL: $8683
>
>This means he would pay $2815 more to the town under Land Value
>Taxation. The property is currently valued at $866,710 on the State Tax
>Rolls. If it were assessed at the same rate that as *my* land is
>assessed, it would be $7.6 million. Market value is probably more. I
>don't think the $2815 will motivate them much.
>
>-Sarah
>
>-------------------
>
>On Apr 13, 2006, at 9:49 AM, Alan Thompson and Sarah Wayland wrote:
>
>[Sarah here, speaking only for myself.]
>
>While I *do* support the idea of a Land Value Tax, I worry about two
>issues.
>
>The first is that the current assessed value of the land does not
>reflect size or location.
>
>The second is that the differential incentive is small, and I wonder
>whether it will be effective.
>
>Let me give some examples to illustrate.
>
>(1) The value of land (versus the improvements on the land) is
>currently set by the state, and those values do not reflect lot size or
>location.
>
>Example 1: On my street are 3 houses: A is on one lot, B is on two
>lots, and C is on three lots. Each address has only one house on it.
>The land value for each property is set at:
>
>A (9000 sq ft) = $55,500
>B (18000 sq ft) = $56,400
>C (22500 sq ft) = $56,850
>
>So my neighbors all pay roughly the same tax on their land, even though
>the smallest lot is 13,500 feet smaller than the biggest lot.
>
>Example 2: The Town of Riverdale Park sold a 649 square foot commercial
>lot on the southeast corner of East-West Highway and Route 1 for
>$36,000 to Riverdale One LLC (Mr. Caputo) on 6/4/2003. That same
>property has a state-assessed value (last updated on 1/1/2004) of $200.
>
>Clearly the state will have to reassess the value of the land before a
>"land value tax" can have any real meaning.
>
>(2) The amount of money a commercial property will pay, with the
>current assessment structure, will not change by enough to motivate a
>change in behavior.
>
>Example: The old Crestar Bank Building at 6200 Baltimore Avenue,
>currently owned by Jemal Riverdale Citizens LLC, currently pays the
>following in taxes:
>
>STATE: $946
>COUNTY: $8508
>MUNICIPAL: $7173
>
>Under a Land Value Taxation scheme, Jemal Riverdale Citizens LLC would
>pay:
>
>STATE: $1469
>COUNTY: $8936
>MUNICIPAL: $7534
>
>For Riverdale Park, this means Jemal would pay $361 more to the town
>under Land Value Taxation. He bought the building for $1,350,000. I
>don't know that $361 will motivate any changes in behavior on his part.
>David Hiles says that this argument (that the incentive is too small
>(or a different version too large)) was not relevant to the merit of
>the proposal, but I think it is worth considering nonetheless.
>
>----
>
>To summarize, the main point is that the state will have to change how
>land is valued before Land Value Tax can truly work. A secondary point
>is that the amount of money we are discussing here will not have much
>impact on a developer who is used to dealing with millions of dollars
>at a time, and doesn't seem to mind lost revenue on the order of many
>thousands each month.
>
>-Sarah
>
>
>
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