[RP TownTalk] Fwd: new sign in front of the Cafritz property on Rt. 1

Tue Aug 18 19:07:37 UTC 2009

Thank you Sarah for the maps.  I was hoping you would post that.   Now, in 
looking at the maps, it appears that our boundary with CP is just south  of 
Abion (sp?) Rd which is where I always thought it was and where our old sign 
 was.  So, now I wonder why the PW Director, Mr. Stampff, CP, wrote to  
Michelle and told her our old sign was off by more than 150 yards.  I hope  we 
get our sign back up there quickly.  I will volunteer to Plant the  flowers, 
any helpers?  Audrey
In a message dated 8/18/2009 2:04:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
m.avery at rocketmail.com writes:

These maps are not surveyors maps.  
That means they do not show the detail indicating the exact location of  
the towns boundaries.
 It is also not a legal document showing ware the towns boundaries  are.

Though, the main question here is why the citizens of the town of  
Riverdale Park were not informed about this situation, i.e. transparency in  
government.

Also, 
no matter why the sign was removed, there should be at least some kind of  
temporary indicator of our official border, especially considering the 
issues  concerning the Cafritz property.

____________________________________
 From: Sarah Wayland  <sarah.wayland at gmail.com>
To:  towntalk at riverdale-park.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:23:48  PM
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk]  Fwd: new sign in front of the Cafritz property 
on Rt. 1

Here is  a map of Riverdale Park with our official boundaries,
according to the  State of Maryland  indicated.

http://www.sha.maryland.gov/SHAServices/mapsBrochures/maps/oppe/HISD_MAPS/83
FTt128.PDF

Here  is a map of College Park with their official boundaries  indicated:

http://www.sha.maryland.gov/SHAServices/mapsBrochures/maps/oppe/HISD_MAPS/83
FTt037.PDF

You  can find official maps of all the towns in the area on this  page:

http://www.sha.maryland.gov/SHAServices/mapsBrochures/maps/oppe/towndocument
s.asp?PlotName=Prince%20George%27s

-Sarah

On  Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:31 PM, <_ABragg7393 at aol.com_ 
(mailto:ABragg7393 at aol.com) > wrote:
>  Hey, Guy,  You were the Mayor when the sign went up (see info  below).  I
> know you didn't put it in the wrong place.   What's your take?  Tell us 
where
> our Northern boundary is,  please.
> audrey
>
>
>  ________________________________
> From: _m.avery at rocketmail.com_ (mailto:m.avery at rocketmail.com) 
> To:  _dlynch at garretroomstudios.com_ (mailto:dlynch at garretroomstudios.com) 
>  CC: _TownTalk at riverdale-park.org_ (mailto:TownTalk at riverdale-park.org) 
>  Sent: 8/18/2009 11:12:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
> Subj: Re: [RP  TownTalk] new sign in front of the Cafritz property on Rt. 
1
>
>  OK,
> so, how much of the Cafritz property belongs to College  Park?
> Does anybody  know?
>
> How is this going to  effect the proposed development?
> can we get a straigt answer for  grownups?
>
> ________________________________
> From: Don  Lynch <_dlynch at garretroomstudios.com_ 
(mailto:dlynch at garretroomstudios.com) >
>  To: Melissa Avery <_m.avery at rocketmail.com_ 
(mailto:m.avery at rocketmail.com) >
>  Cc: TownTalk <_TownTalk at riverdale-park.org_ 
(mailto:TownTalk at riverdale-park.org) >
>  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:48:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk]  new sign in front of the Cafritz property on 
Rt.
> 1
>
>  Well, this news is very disturbing to me.
>
> I was assured by a  town official that the sign removal and replacement by
> College Park  were unrelated, when in fact they were.
>
> I sit and wonder why  we are not being informed of the facts?
>
> What implications does  this portend?
>
> Don
>
>
> Melissa Avery  wrote:
>> Well, I investigated this sign thing  further....
>> Hear is the response I got from the Town of College  Park.
>> Now I wonder, what implications this has regarding the  Cafritz Property?
>> Now I wonder when we are going to see our sign,  back in it s proper
>> location.
>>
>>
>>  Ms. Avery,
>>
>>
>> The City of College Park talked  to the Town of Riverdale Park about the
>> Riverdale Park sign  actually being inside the city limits of College 
Park.
>> Actually  the College Park city limits go further south to the south 
side of
>>  the roadway entering the Metro property, just north of the roadway into 
 the
>> regional postal facility.  This past spring College Park  purchased and
>> installed new city gateway signs at all entrances to  the City of College
>> Park.  We, at that time double checked  the boundary lines with the 
actual
>> sign locations.  We  learned that the old Riverdale sign was over 50 
yards
>> inside of  College Park territory.  Therefore, I contacted Riverdale  
Park
>> about them removing their sign, which was done.  Our new  gateway sign is
>> 100% new, concrete footing, metal post and  sign.  The old Riverdale Park
>> sign is in Riverdale  somewhere.  We would not remove another town’s sign
>> without  first talking to them.  We are neighbors and cooperate with  our
>> neighbors.
>>
>>
>> Bob  Stumpff
>>
>>
>> Robert T. (Bob)  Stumpff
>>
>> Director of Public  Works
>>
>> City of College Park,  MD
>>
>>
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