[RP TownTalk] taxes

Thu Jul 23 19:40:04 UTC 2009

Our solid waste service charge was $90 for the two years before we moved in, dropped to $70 for the next 6 years, and is (like yours), now at $78.

I checked some other counties for their solid waste service charge:

Montgomery county: $210

Howard County: $225 (although I'm not sure this was the same service as it was listed separately as "trash pickup")

-Marc

> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:35:25 -0400
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] taxes
> From: dwightrholmes at gmail.com
> To: mmolino54 at hotmail.com
> CC: towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> 
> thanks for the link, Marc. I can see that, at least in our case, while
> our bill has gone up substantially every year, the increase almost
> nothing to do with the Solid Waste Service Charge. That charge has
> been on there every year and has increased from $71 to $78 in the 3
> years we've been in the house.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Marc Molino<mmolino54 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > If you need/want to compare your (or even your neighbor's) current
> > assessment, taxes, and solid waste service charge with amounts in past
> > years, you can access this info pretty easily here:
> > http://tax-acct-info.princegeorgescountymd.gov/PropertyTaxes/
> >
> > We've been in RP for 8 years now and for the first 6 years, our property
> > assessment seemed underestimated by anywhere from $20-$100K given the market
> > value of comparable homes in our neighborhood. This year it seems about
> > $10-$30K overestimated given sales of comparable homes (not including short
> > sales and foreclosures). Honestly, I don't know how I feel about it--should
> > I have been paying more for those first 6 years? Does it all wash out in the
> > end? Does the Homestead Tax Credit provide a buffer that makes my taxes
> > actually relate to the real value of my home?
> >
> > >From 2004 to 2007, our total tax bill increased by $100.
> > >From 2007 to 2010, our total tax bill increased by $960.
> > So, we went from about a bump of $30 every year to about $300 more
> > every year. Seems steep.
> >
> > -Marc
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:08:03 -0400
> >> From: dwightrholmes at gmail.com
> >> To: bruce.wernek at mindspring.com
> >> CC: ABragg7393 at aol.com; towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> >> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] taxes
> >>
> >> Bruce - that link is for the non-residential version called 'system
> >> benefit charge'.
> >>
> >> "What is the SBC?
> >>
> >> The SBC is a fee paid by all non-residential property owners in Prince
> >> George's County that will help provide funding for building and
> >> maintaining waste disposal systems. The SBC is a service charge and
> >> not a tax, and therefore also applies to establishments located on
> >> tax-exempt land."
> >>
> >> I assume the comparable information for the residential version is on
> >> the web there somewhere but i didn't see it in a very quick
> >> look-see...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM, <bruce.wernek at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> > Audrey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I've already called the county and got the skinny.  You can get more
> >> > info in
> >> > the following link
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "www.pgc-systembenefit.com"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > under "sbc".  I talked to Mr Wright at (301) 952-7609 who works in the
> >> > environmental division of PG county and he told me this charge pays for
> >> > things like "digging the hole" at the dump (I wonder what the money
> >> > collected from the citizens, businesses, and trash trucks for disposal
> >> > at
> >> > the dump is used for).  I asked Mr Wright why I was never billed for
> >> > this in
> >> > the past and he said I probably just fell through the cracks.
> >> > Apparently,
> >> > there are quite a few people who "fell through the crack".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This "Solid Waste Service Charge" has no business being on my tax bill
> >> > since
> >> > it is not a tax.  I'm very concerned about this since the county could
> >> > put
> >> > any amount on my tax bill and label is a "you name it service charge"
> >> > essentially increasing my property taxes without any restrictions.  If I
> >> > recall PG county tried to raise property taxes, but their request was
> >> > denied
> >> > by the state.  It's interesting to note the timing of this new "Solid
> >> > Waste
> >> > Service Charge".  I intend to go through whatever process to refute this
> >> > charge with the county.  I intend on calling the Treasury this afternoon
> >> > to
> >> > get more information.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I encourage all of our readers to do the same.  From where I stand, this
> >> > is
> >> > charge is carte blanche for PG county to increase property tax without
> >> > having to answer to the state.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bruce
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: ABragg7393 at aol.com
> >> > Sent: Jul 23, 2009 8:38 AM
> >> > To: towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> >> > Subject: [RP TownTalk] taxes
> >> >
> >> > The property tax bills just came out.  I heard there was some buzz on
> >> > the
> >> > Hyattsville list serve, but don't see anything here on our list serve.
> >> > Is
> >> > everyone happy with their bills and assessments?  I have a question and
> >> > calls to the treasury office don't produce an answer.  We seem to have a
> >> > new
> >> > charge on our taxes for "Solid Waste Disposal".  does anyone know what
> >> > that
> >> > is?   I think my taxes are outrageous.  Does anyone else have a problem?
> >> >
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> "A poorly designed and insufficient stimulus means that the downturn
> will last longer, the recovery will be slower and there will be more
> innocent victims." --Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel laureate.
> "There's an overwhelming economic case for more stimulus. But as a
> political matter it's going to be harder, not easier, to get that
> extra stimulus now than it would have been to get the plan right in
> the first place.” --Paul Krugman, Nobel laureate.

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