[RP TownTalk] multiple families/apartments

Thu Apr 22 03:08:59 UTC 2010

Bates missed my house again this week..  ; (.... Lawn waste pickup

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On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Melissa Avery <m.avery at rocketmail.com>  
wrote:

> Besides being eye sores and the town missing out on a huge rental  
> tax revenue and property values going in the toilet, we should also  
> be concerned about fire hazards. If one of these over crowed places  
> caught fire it would be devastating.
>
> From: "bruce.wernek at mindspring.com" <bruce.wernek at mindspring.com>
> To: "McDougall, Sherene (Law)" <Sherene.McDougall at ngc.com>; OurDollMom at aol.com 
> ; wheadle at yahoo.com; towntalk at riverdale-park.org;  
> nbmooney1 at yahoo.com; towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 8:00:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/apartments
>
> Oh please, enough with the motherhood, this has been going on for  
> years.  There are two houses around a block from my house that have/ 
> had multiple families living in them long before the economic  
> downturn.  One of them, next to Ernie's Lock, was shut down about 18  
> months ago for this reason.  The other still has around four  
> families living in it.
>
> It's unfortunate, but many of these places are halfway houses for  
> illegal immigrants/families.  This is the way it works.  A citizen  
> or a legal immigrant buys a house.  To pay for the house he/she  
> rents rooms to illegal immigrants/families.  Since the illegal  
> immigrants/family have no identification, credit history, social  
> security number(s), etc, it's difficult if not impossible for them  
> to rent an apartment or find a regular job.  This means that they  
> must work as day laborers and therefore pay their rent in cash.   
> It's perfect for the landlord because; there is no record of rent  
> payments; there is no enforcement of rental laws because as far as  
> the county is concerned the house is not a rental property; the  
> landlord doesn't have to spend any money on maintainenance,  
> insurance, etc. because again the house is "not a rental property";  
> enforcement of rental laws is lax if not non-existent; and the  
> landlord doesn't claim the rent as income so he/she doesn't pay any  
> taxes on it while still geting all of the related benefits that we  
> taxpayers pay for.  Not only that, if the illegal immigrant/family  
> is having difficulty paying their rent, the landlord can threaten to  
> turn them over to the INS or just throw them out with absolutely no  
> consequences.  The tenants have no recourse since they are not legal  
> residents.
>
> What a country!
> Bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "McDougall, Sherene (Law)"
> Sent: Apr 20, 2010 6:01 PM
> To: OurDollMom at aol.com, wheadle at yahoo.com,  
> bruce.wernek at mindspring.com, nbmooney1 at yahoo.com, towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/apartments
>
> Please remember that in these times when a lot of people are losing  
> their homes, families are bundling up and living with relatives so  
> as not to end up on the streets.  I do agree that there are  
> instances where unrelated people dwell in a home, but we are all  
> trying to survive.
>
> Sherene
>
> From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org [mailto:towntalk- 
> bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of OurDollMom at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:57 PM
> To: wheadle at yahoo.com; bruce.wernek at mindspring.com; nbmooney1 at yahoo.com 
> ; towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/apartments
>
> Some time ago I went to a meeting about
> this topic.  The answer was the courts are
> so overloaded with serious cases that the
> judges will not hear or prosecute people
> who have multiple family members/friends
> living with them.  Also was mentioned that
> these people are trying to survive, make a
> living, send money back home, etc. They
> said the rules cannot be enforced.
>
> In a message dated 4/20/2010 12:30:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wheadle at yahoo.com 
>  writes:
>
> On the same subject, what is the maximum number of people allowed  
> in, for instance, a 1 bedroom apartment?  Just curious...
>
>
>
>
> From: "bruce.wernek at mindspring.com" <bruce.wernek at mindspring.com>
> To: Nancy Mooney <nbmooney1 at yahoo.com>; towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 10:42:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/single family homes
>
> I've noticed this too Nancy.  This is going on all over town.
>
> Based on my understanding, the maximum number of unrelated  
> individuals allowable by law is five per household.  I had to abide  
> by this law when I had rental property in Hyattsvile.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Mooney
> Sent: Apr 20, 2010 10:33 AM
> To: towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> Subject: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/single family homes
>
> I have begun to wonder what the impact is on our town of these many  
> single family homes that are crammed with families.
>
> I know of one instance where a family of 4 shares a bedroom in the  
> back of a house.  Another large family has the front of the house,  
> and at least one other person is living in the basement.
>
> I think there are at least three families - by the number of 'moms'  
> and kids I see.  (I'm assuming they are moms) in the house next to  
> me - which has 4 bedrooms at the most.
>
> I know this group can be very caustic - please no insults about me  
> being racist, or bigoted, or, whatever.  These people I'm speaking  
> of are my friends.  But it just seems unhealthy and in the long run  
> - a burden on the town services.
>
> What I would like to know is what are the costs to the town, and  
> what can we do to reduce this impact?
>
> Nancy
>
>
>
>
>
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