[RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

Sun Mar 14 16:49:08 UTC 2010

Dear Fellow Town Talkers - If folks aren't comfortable making inquiries on
this list for fear of being denigrated or starting a flame war between
others - I think that's very unfortunate and we should consider how we can
all communicate more civilly and try to dial down the anger and hostility.
I have seen numerous "discussions" in the last couple of months - starting
with a seemingly innocuous comment or question - result in insults or
insinuations being hurled back and forth or just back.

Even if you genuinely think someone is being - fill-in the blank with
negative item - consider is it appropriate to publicly insult someone? Would
you say it to their face if you were talking to your neighbor over the
fence?

So will the next comment be an angry diatribe that dissuades civil discourse
or a more measured response that encourages community interaction?

Lisa Grob

  _____  

From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org
[mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of Carol Prato
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:16 AM
To: Bruce Wernek; 'Nina Faye'; towntalk at riverdale-park.org; 'Zach Feris'
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

Guys, 

You don't have to argue with one another on my account.  I didn't want to
start any bad bloodbetween neighbors over my tree issues.  I just thought I
would ask on town talk since all of you live around me.  From now on I guess
I will seek information elsewhere.

Carol

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bruce <mailto:bruce.wernek at mindspring.com>  Wernek 

To: 'Nina Faye' <mailto:ns_faye at yahoo.com>  ; towntalk at riverdale-park.org ;
'Carol <mailto:tazimax at verizon.net>  Prato' ; 'Zach
<mailto:zferis at gmail.com>  Feris' 

Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:53 AM

Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

Nina

Get off you soap box.  You wouldn't be calling us male chauvinists if your
sewer were backed up would you?  Get real!

Bruce

From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org
[mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of Nina Faye
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 2:30 PM
To: towntalk at riverdale-park.org; 'Carol Prato'; Zach Feris
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

I do not mean to throw a rock in this discussion, but don't you two guys
think your responses are a bit "male chauvinist?"   If the lady says the top
of her tree is missing, while previously it was just leaning, that strikes
me as a clear indication someone removed it.  As to why someone would have
done it, in my 63 years I have seen a lot of complete idiots hacking up
trees under the guise of "pruning."  I have even tried to explain to a few
that pollarding was invented centuries ago in Europe for the sole purpose of
peasants stealing firewood from the rich, landed, gentry.  Some so called
arborist was contacting people in Hyattsville after the storm telling them
that their trees needed to be "topped."   To the best of my knowledge no one
fell for the ploy.  Do any of the bank security cameras point towards the
injured tree?

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Zach Feris <zferis at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Zach Feris <zferis at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism
To: towntalk at riverdale-park.org, "'Carol Prato'" <tazimax at verizon.net>
Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 10:54 AM

Hi! Carol, I'd have to second Bruce's response. The entire area received
record level snowfalls Feb 1-10. I'm guessing that if you were in the
hospital during this time, that is likely the culprit behind your poor
cypress tree's unhappy beheading. A drive around the area also shows that
coniferous trees seem to have been hit particularly hard by the snow - loads
and loads are broken and in a similar state to yours. Could this be your
answer?

My best,

Zach

From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org
[mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Wernek
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:41 AM
To: 'Carol Prato'
Cc: towntalk at riverdale-park.org
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

Carol

We had a lot of snow recently.  The weight of the snow caused the top a
cedar tree next to my driveway to break off.  I've also seen quite a few
trees in a similar state while walking the dog.  Are you sure this isn't
what happened to your tree.  

You would need a bucket truck or ladder to cut off the top of a tree.  Why
would anyone put in this much effort to do this?

Bruce

From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org
[mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of Carol Prato
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 3:48 PM
To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
Subject: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

I need some help.  Sometime in the last 2 weeks (I have no exact idea due to
the fact I was in the hospital), the entire top of one of my leland cyprus
trees was cut off and removed.  I live in the house all by itself on 44th
place (between Suntrust bank and the Dental Group building).  The tree in
question was one of my big ones along my fence line between Suntrust bank
and me.  I asked Suntrust if their landscapers (Brickman) had done it, but
OF COURSE they knew nothing about it.  I called the town just to make sure
they didn't do it, and they assured me that public works would never cut a
tree on private property.  I am pretty sure that Suntrust's landscapers did
it because it was hanging over my fence after the snowstorm, but they don't
want to admit it due to the fact that what they would have done would have
been illegal.

I was hoping that maybe someone in the neighborhood saw someone cutting the
trees in that area in the last 2 weeks.  If you did or know someone that
might have, please let me know.  Those trees are the only privacy I have
between the businesses and my home and now one is missing about 6 feet of
tree.  I can only hope it will grow back.

Carol DePrato Miller

-----Inline Attachment Follows-----

_______________________________________________
TownTalk mailing list
To post to the list, send mail to
<http://us.mc555.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=TownTalk@riverdale-park.org>
TownTalk at riverdale-park.org

<http://us.mc555.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=TownTalk-request@riverdale-par
k.org> TownTalk-request at riverdale-park.org is for automated subscription
processing only
 <http://riverdale-park.org/mailman/listinfo/towntalk>
http://riverdale-park.org/mailman/listinfo/towntalk

For more information about Riverdale Park, visit
<http://www.riverdaleparkmd.info/> http://www.riverdaleparkmd.info

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://riverdale-park.org/pipermail/towntalk/attachments/20100314/ce5b25fb/attachment-0002.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 5675 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://riverdale-park.org/pipermail/towntalk/attachments/20100314/ce5b25fb/attachment.jpg>