[RP TownTalk] tree vandalism reply

Wed Mar 17 14:00:57 UTC 2010

Ok, there are no lines near them, no phone lines no electric line nothing like a line near it.  It is just a border tree along my fence and the banks parking lot.  I have asked the banks landscapers and the bank manager herself if they removed it and they did not. (at least thats what the landscapers say...)
I am sure that the bank landscapers did it, and yes it was hanging over the fence.  
My point is no one is admitting it.
And no its not broken snapped, cracked, or anything else.  It was very obviousl sawed. And several branches not just one.
All I originally wondered was if anyone saw it.  I'm not going to get the truth from the bank because they know that they would have to replace it.  
They blamed the town.....
Of course we know public works did not do it (Honestly why would they).
Thats it.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bruce.wernek at mindspring.com 
  To: Melissa Avery ; Sue Collins ; Lisa Grob ; Carol Prato ; Nina Faye ; towntalk at riverdale-park.org ; Zach Feris 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism reply

  All

  Can we dispense with the motherhood and political correctness and get on with the problem at hand.  I'm sure every family in the reading audience can attest to the spats and poking that occur daily in their households.  After all, in a sense we Riverdalians are a family so why should we expect anything less.

  Now on to the problem, I don't thing that the tree was cut down maliciously.  My theory is that it was removed for a reason.  Perhaps it was overhanging the parking lot interfering with the ability for people to park or intefering with phone lines.  It takes a lot of effort to cut off the top of a tree.  It just doesn't make sense that someone would do it for sport.

  Bruce

    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Melissa Avery 
    Sent: Mar 17, 2010 7:11 AM 
    To: Sue Collins , Lisa Grob , Carol Prato , Bruce Wernek , Nina Faye , towntalk at riverdale-park.org, Zach Feris 
    Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism reply 

    Sue,
    thank you for your thoughtfull responce.

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    From: Sue Collins <wheadle at yahoo.com>
    To: Lisa Grob <lisagrob at verizon.net>; Carol Prato <tazimax at verizon.net>; Bruce Wernek <bruce.wernek at mindspring.com>; Nina Faye <ns_faye at yahoo.com>; towntalk at riverdale-park.org; Zach Feris <zferis at gmail.com>
    Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 6:35:14 AM
    Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism reply

    Thank you for your post; I've felt the "sting" myself at times, when I've posted a question or comment.  Constructive criticism is one thing and I don't mind some joking back and forth; however.... !

    As for the tree incident; unfortunately, there ARE people out there who steal trees for the firewood, for the tree itself, etc.  Firewood is expensive from what I've seen and there are people out there with no concience who will take what isn't theirs.  Sad but true.  Due to construction, the bad storm, etc., we're losing far too many trees in town as it is, I'm sorry these trees were vandalized.  

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    From: Lisa Grob <lisagrob at verizon.net>
    To: Carol Prato <tazimax at verizon.net>; Bruce Wernek <bruce.wernek at mindspring.com>; Nina Faye <ns_faye at yahoo.com>; towntalk at riverdale-park.org; Zach Feris <zferis at gmail.com>
    Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 12:49:08 PM
    Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

    Dear Fellow Town Talkers – If folks aren’t comfortable making inquiries on this list for fear of being denigrated or starting a flame war between others – I think that’s very unfortunate and we should consider how we can all communicate more civilly and try to dial down the anger and hostility.  I have seen numerous “discussions” in the last couple of months – starting with a seemingly innocuous comment or question - result in insults or insinuations being hurled back and forth or just back.

    Even if you genuinely think someone is being - fill-in the blank with negative item – consider is it appropriate to publicly insult someone? Would you say it to their face if you were talking to your neighbor over the fence?

    So will the next comment be an angry diatribe that dissuades civil discourse or a more measured response that encourages community interaction?

    Lisa Grob

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    From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org [mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of Carol Prato
    Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:16 AM
    To: Bruce Wernek; 'Nina Faye'; towntalk at riverdale-park.org; 'Zach Feris'
    Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

    Guys, 

    You don't have to argue with one another on my account.  I didn't want to start any bad bloodbetween neighbors over my tree issues.  I just thought I would ask on town talk since all of you live around me.  >From now on I guess I will seek information elsewhere.

    Carol

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Bruce Wernek 

      To: 'Nina Faye' ; towntalk at riverdale-park.org ; 'Carol Prato' ; 'Zach Feris' 

      Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:53 AM

      Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

      Nina

      Get off you soap box.  You wouldn’t be calling us male chauvinists if your sewer were backed up would you?  Get real!

      Bruce

      From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org [mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of Nina Faye
      Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 2:30 PM
      To: towntalk at riverdale-park.org; 'Carol Prato'; Zach Feris
      Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

            I do not mean to throw a rock in this discussion, but don't you two guys think your responses are a bit "male chauvinist?"   If the lady says the top of her tree is missing, while previously it was just leaning, that strikes me as a clear indication someone removed it.  As to why someone would have done it, in my 63 years I have seen a lot of complete idiots hacking up trees under the guise of "pruning."  I have even tried to explain to a few that pollarding was invented centuries ago in Europe for the sole purpose of peasants stealing firewood from the rich, landed, gentry.  Some so called arborist was contacting people in Hyattsville after the storm telling them that their trees needed to be "topped."   To the best of my knowledge no one fell for the ploy.  Do any of the bank security cameras point towards the injured tree?

            --- On Sat, 3/13/10, Zach Feris <zferis at gmail.com> wrote:

              From: Zach Feris <zferis at gmail.com>
              Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism
              To: towntalk at riverdale-park.org, "'Carol Prato'" <tazimax at verizon.net>
              Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 10:54 AM

              Hi! Carol, I’d have to second Bruce’s response. The entire area received record level snowfalls Feb 1-10. I’m guessing that if you were in the hospital during this time, that is likely the culprit behind your poor cypress tree’s unhappy beheading. A drive around the area also shows that coniferous trees seem to have been hit particularly hard by the snow – loads and loads are broken and in a similar state to yours. Could this be your answer?

              My best,

              Zach

            From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org [mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Wernek
            Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:41 AM
            To: 'Carol Prato'
            Cc: towntalk at riverdale-park.org
            Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

            Carol

            We had a lot of snow recently.  The weight of the snow caused the top a cedar tree next to my driveway to break off.  I’ve also seen quite a few trees in a similar state while walking the dog.  Are you sure this isn’t what happened to your tree.  

            You would need a bucket truck or ladder to cut off the top of a tree.  Why would anyone put in this much effort to do this?

            Bruce

            From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org [mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of Carol Prato
            Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 3:48 PM
            To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
            Subject: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism

            I need some help.  Sometime in the last 2 weeks (I have no exact idea due to the fact I was in the hospital), the entire top of one of my leland cyprus trees was cut off and removed.  I live in the house all by itself on 44th place (between Suntrust bank and the Dental Group building).  The tree in question was one of my big ones along my fence line between Suntrust bank and me.  I asked Suntrust if their landscapers (Brickman) had done it, but OF COURSE they knew nothing about it.  I called the town just to make sure they didn't do it, and they assured me that public works would never cut a tree on private property.  I am pretty sure that Suntrust's landscapers did it because it was hanging over my fence after the snowstorm, but they don't want to admit it due to the fact that what they would have done would have been illegal.

            I was hoping that maybe someone in the neighborhood saw someone cutting the trees in that area in the last 2 weeks.  If you did or know someone that might have, please let me know.  Those trees are the only privacy I have between the businesses and my home and now one is missing about 6 feet of tree.  I can only hope it will grow back.

            Carol DePrato Miller

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