[RP TownTalk] Follow-up Re: Change in Government
Vernon Archer
varcher at gmail.com
Wed Mar 9 11:31:35 UTC 2016
Bob,
As you have expanded your question/questions significantly I'm going to
take some time to craft my reply.
Also, staff will post the timeline for consideration of the proposal so
everyone will know it.
Vern
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:25 PM, bob smith <sfmc68 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Mayor Archer, Council members, and those who are interested,
>
> Thank you Mayor, I have re-read the article you cited. Respectfully, in
> my opinion, your response and article cite some what qualitative answers
> that could be construed as answering to my first question but I do not
> believe they do. This proposed change would fundamentally change the
> elected governance model for Riverdale Park.
>
> While the article portrays a bit of forward thinking citing increased
> workloads caused by the growth of Riverdale Park and the interaction
> with service providers and other municipalities as a need for a CEO like
> individual to handle this, have any other options been evaluated both
> qualitatively and and quantitatively?
>
> In addition to the qualitative aspects cited in your article, there are
> some unmentioned aspects that I believe need to be measured
> quantitatively as best they can be before venturing down the path of
> change. This proposal is more than a name change and new role for the
> full time paid person who takes on the role. What will that cost, in
> real dollars, fully loaded benefits and so on? The implications of the
> wording in your article is increased staff, in addition to this new
> role, is it not? I trust the council and mayor have researched the
> projected cost over years for such a new position but I have not heard a
> whisper of that data. Is there a set of projections? I am assuming this
> will be an add to the budget.
>
> The entities of College Park and Greenbelt have been cited as examples
> of this model of operation. Both of those entities are Cities in
> Maryland. Does this show a longer range plan to move Riverdale Park to
> City status rather than a Town?
>
> I am trying to grasp the overall picture here, and assume most of the
> rest of Riverdale would like to know what we would be getting into with
> this change.
>
> Respectfully,
> bob smith
> ward 3
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> On 3/8/16 3:31 PM, Vernon Archer wrote:
> > Bob,
> >
> > While my mayor's report in the Town Crier was not specifically written
> to answer the two questions you pose, it in effect does answer them. If you
> haven't read it already you can access it at
> http://riverdaleparkmd.info/Crier/Mar%202016%20Crier_jeb.pdf
> >
> > It gives my take on why I support the change generally-- though I count
> myself among those who will ask for some changes prior to passage. I didn't
> directly answer the "lose" question because I don't really see how the town
> residents/voters lose in any tangible way. I suppose the Office of the
> mayor loses executive authority, but I can't see how anybody (other than
> me) cares about that.
> >
> > Vern
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >> On Mar 8, 2016, at 3:08 PM, bob smith <sfmc68 at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mayor Archer, Council members,
> >> I have read and studied the Proposed Charter changed introduced at last
> >> evenings session.
> >>
> >> On March 4th, 2015, I posted this (excerpted) to the town talk
> discussion:
> >> Alan,
> >> Thanks for all the detail thus far. Thanks to Marilyn and Audrey and
> >> others for asking such good questions.
> >>
> >> I have a slightly complex question (complex in phrasing properly) set to
> >> offer.
> >>
> >> What is the gain for the town in having town manager and what does the
> >> town (or what do the people of the town and the council as elected reps)
> >> loose in having a town manager?
> >>
> >> I obviously have more detailed questions, but this sort of top level can
> >> start the conversation.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> bob smith
> >> ward 3
> >>
> >> I have not yet seen a response. Perhaps there has been a response that
> >> was not delivered or it is hung up in the internet system somewhere.
> >>
> >> While I understand that there are other pressing matters that take
> >> attention away from this conversation, I am concerned that the clock is
> >> ticking on this now that it has been introduced and those questions have
> >> not been answered.
> >>
> >> As I stated, I am interested in seeing these questions answered, in open
> >> dialogue, so that we can call engage in detailed discourse on the impact
> >> of this proposal should it be passed. An informed citizenry is
> >> essential for the future of Riverdale Park.
> >>
> >> Respectfully,
> >> Bob Smith,
> >> ward 3.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 3/8/16 11:39 AM, Vernon Archer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bob and all interested,
> >>>
> >>> I and everyone on the council share your concern that all voters and
> >>> residents have an opportunity to be heard and participate in the
> process
> >>> of considering the change of government that was formally introduced
> >>> last evening. But I do want to point out that as a representative
> >>> democracy we are controlled by state law and our charter in the process
> >>> of proposing, passing and if deemed necessary referendum. You cannot
> >>> take to referendum a law that has not been passed.
> >>>
> >>> In Maryland the concept of a referendum is designed to give voters a
> >>> mechanism to correct the legislative body--council--if sufficient
> >>> numbers of voters feel the body either did not listen to the voters or
> >>> made some grave error. A referendum is the voters way to say a firm
> "NO"
> >>> to legislation, not a way to express an open opinion YES or NO.
> >>>
> >>> I would like to point out that now that the legislation is proposed
> >>> there will be a minimum of 2 meetings prior to the council taking
> action
> >>> on the proposal, March 28 work session and the April 4 legislative
> >>> meeting. There will not be action until the May 2 meeting that will
> >>> also give an opportunity to discuss in the April 25 work session.
> >>>
> >>> Thus, please inform yourself about the proposal. Please work with the
> >>> council to improve the proposal if you have limited concerns, but like
> >>> the general thrust of the proposal, or let your representative know if
> >>> you oppose the idea outright. I believe that the council is not
> >>> interested in proposing anything so divisive and dividing in our town
> >>> that it will end up having a referendum where even a significant
> >>> minority are dissatisfied with their action. The goal is a consensus
> >>> where an overwhelming majority of residents are happy with the outcome.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> Vern
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:19 AM, bob smith <sfmc68 at verizon.net
> >>> <mailto:sfmc68 at verizon.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Recalling the changes in Riverdale Park over the last 28 years, from
> >>> name change to bond decisions, I believe it would be disservice to
> the
> >>> Town and the citizens if a change in the form of the Town government
> was
> >>> not decided by referendum.
> >>>
> >>> I urge the citizens of Riverdale Park to consider this matter on its
> >>> merits, thoroughly discuss it, and put the matter to a vote by all of
> >>> the eligible voters. I urge the Town Council to consider this
> approach
> >>> as means of ensuring voice of the people is heard and listened to.
> >>>
> >>> Respectfully,
> >>> Bob Smith
> >>> Ward 3
> >>>
> >>>> On 3/2/16 9:15 PM, Alan K. Thompson wrote:
> >>>> Will the Mayor and Council be the only ones who decide this matter
> >>>> or will it go to referendum for a vote by the residents?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Unless the citizens want a referendum, it will be decided by the
> >>>> Council. § 4-304 of the Local Government Code of Maryland (which
> >>> governs
> >>>> amendments to municipal charters) allows referendum only at the
> >>> request
> >>>> of the voters - the Council cannot initiate a binding referendum.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Entire message, to ensure continuity
> >>> \
> >>>
> >>> Hi Audrey,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your interest in this. I'm happy to answer your
> questions
> >>> for the current draft, but things may change because of feedback from
> >>> the citizens and the Council. I'll answer your questions after each
> one
> >>> below.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Audrey Bragg <abragg7393 at aol.com
> >>> <mailto:abragg7393 at aol.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just reading the Town Crier and Mayor's report regarding the
> change
> >>> in the town government. A professional manager will be in charge of
> the
> >>> town instead of the Mayor. I would like to hear what other residents
> >>> have to say about this and I do have questions.
> >>> Will the CEO be required to live in the town? I think this is
> very
> >>> important.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This is not in the current draft. Greenbelt requires this of their
> City
> >>> Manager, but I don't think that either College Park or Hyattsville
> (both
> >>> of which have forms of government closer to the "Council-Manager"
> form
> >>> than we do) require this. I can check into that and get back to you
> if
> >>> you're interested.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What are the education and experience requirements for the
> position?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Currently full membership in good standing in the International City
> and
> >>> County Manager's Association, which is a professional accreditation
> >>> organization for managers of local governments. They have stringent
> >>> requirements including educational requirements, and are recognized
> >>> around the world.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Why do we even need a Mayor if the CEO is in charge? Why not
> just
> >>> have a board?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a lot of ways the Mayor is just a member of the Council under the
> >>> proposal, but he or she does have some additional responsibilities,
> and
> >>> is elected to represent the whole Town and not just part of it. As I
> >>> said in my February Town Crier article about this change, in
> Greenbelt
> >>> (the closest to a pure Council-Manager form of government near us)
> the
> >>> Mayor is not directly elected. The language from the current draft
> >>> says: "The mayor shall be recognized as the head of the town
> government
> >>> for all ceremonial purposes, by the court for serving civil process,
> and
> >>> by the Governor for the purpose of military and emergency law."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Will the Mayor and Council be the only ones who decide this
> matter
> >>> or will it go to referendum for a vote by the residents?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Unless the citizens want a referendum, it will be decided by the
> >>> Council. § 4-304 of the Local Government Code of Maryland (which
> governs
> >>> amendments to municipal charters) allows referendum only at the
> request
> >>> of the voters - the Council cannot initiate a binding referendum.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Who will the CEO be responsible to? Can the council hire and
> fire?
> >>> Is the CEO elected or appointed by council?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Town Manager is hired and removed by the Town Council, and is
> >>> responsible to them and to the law; the exact language is "serves at
> the
> >>> pleasure of the Council" and means that the Town Manager can be
> removed
> >>> for any reason (or no reason, if the Council decides so). The
> current
> >>> charter change draft has a specific process for removal of the Town
> >>> Manager.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do any of the other local towns do this and how does it work for
> >>> them?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> College Park, Hyattsville, and Greenbelt all have City Managers,
> though
> >>> the split in power between the Council, Mayor, and Town Manager in
> all
> >>> three are different (and that split is still being adjusted in my
> draft,
> >>> even before formally introducing it). I would say that this system
> >>> works well in all of those municipalities.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think this is a very serious and important matter and I think
> the
> >>> residents need to be involved and notified when we can review any
> >>> legislation and ask questions and it should be well advertised so
> people
> >>> are aware and know what's going on.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I agree. I wrote my long article on it in the February Town Crier,
> >>> Mayor Archer wrote about it this month, and we can have up to 60 days
> >>> after introduction to discuss it before we have to pass it reject it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would really like to hear the opinions and ideas and questions
> >>> from the residents.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Me too!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again for writing, and I'd love to continue the discussion.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Alan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> Vernon Archer, Mayor
> >>> Town of Riverdale Park, Maryland
> >>>
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> >>> Vernon Archer, Mayor
> >>> Town of Riverdale Park, Maryland
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Vernon Archer, Mayor
Town of Riverdale Park, Maryland
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