[RP TownTalk] Children in streets - Ravenswood Road area
Peggy
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Thu May 12 20:14:10 UTC 2016
Not sure we need more speed bumps. What we do need are signs saying "No thru traffic" and then have the police enforce it. That's what is supposed to be happening when the bridge to Wholefoods opens. So let's start now and get people used to not being able to drive thru our streets. I have lived here for 45 years and this has always been a problem. The time to make the change is now before it gets worse with the bridge!
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> On May 12, 2016, at 3:57 PM, adrian limmen <adrianlimmen at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for your email.
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> I see people using this area as a cut through all the time.
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> My opinion is that kids should feel safe riding their bikes and playing in the neighborhood. This area does not need traffic that passes through. If you don't live here, have business here or are not visiting someone here you do not really need to be here. The people that live here should be extra careful. That's all I am saying. Kids will play in the streets no matter what you say to the parents. It may not be ideal but I would rather kids choose to go outside and socialize then sit inside and just play video games. (As much as I love video games)
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> I believe we could do with more speed-bumps, especially on Ravenswood. How fast do you really need to go? That's my opinion.
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> That "secret" cut through is coming back and coming back strong once we have a bridge that goes from here to the new Riverdale Park Station. You will see a major increase in traffic trying to avoid 410. Wouldn't you if you had that as an option?
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> Anyway I hope we can manage to get this taken care of before its a problem. Thanks for bringing it up, I have been thinking about it for a long time.
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> Take care!
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>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Audrey Bragg <abragg7393 at aol.com> wrote:
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>> I live on Ravenswood and don't find any extra cars down at this end speeding or cutting through. However I do object to the children playing in the street. Its a tragedy waiting to happen. The street was made for cars, not children on low to the ground toys. Many drivers have to stop for these children (both ways) and then they really can't see them since they are "driving their toys" between parked vehicles and you don't know where they are and can't see them that low to the ground. There are no parents in sight. I totally agree something needs to be done and I believe talking to the parents is a first step. The children up on that corner can ride their trikes in the dead end street where there are no cars and/or on the sidewalk where they won't get hit. We already have speed bumps on Ravenswood. I do believe when we had the "secret" outlet back by erco we did have some cut through traffic. However, with the closure of that I don't see many cut through anymore. When I see children playing in the street I always tell them to get on the sidewalk. I have gotten yelled at by parents telling me it is none of my business. My answer to them is "Yes it is my business. I am responsible for keeping children safe. Especially when no one else seems to be watching over them" I raised children here in Riverdale and they were not allowed to play in the street. I took mine to the bike trail to ride bikes or trikes. Its safer. Roads really were made for cars. I plan to go to the public safety meeting tonight, too.
>> Audrey Bragg
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: adrian limmen <adrianlimmen at gmail.com>
>> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org <towntalk at riverdale-park.org>
>> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2016 2:31 pm
>> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Children in streets - Ravenswood Road area
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>> I sent this before but I received an auto message that the moderator had to review it first. Looks like it never made it to the group.
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>> As much as the kids and parents should be aware of traffic we should also focus more of our attention on the growing number of cars abusing our neighborhood as a cut through. We are seeing more and more traffic especially on Ravenswood Rd. Cars that cut through don’t stop at the stop sign on Ravenswood and 48th where all the kids seem to be playing. I think many are people are using our area to circumvent traffic on 410 and cutting through Ravenswood to get to their destination outside of our neighborhood. With Whole Foods coming the potential cut through traffic will increase dramatically. Could we do something to make it much less attractive to vehicles trying to save a few minutes? The kids should be able to ride their bikes and play on our neighborhood streets without worry. Hyattsville and University Park have some interesting ways of managing their neighborhood traffic. They have more one way streets, speed bumps, concrete blockades and traffic patterns that make it annoying to try weaving through their neighborhoods to get around busier roads.
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>> Here are a few things I think Riverdale could do to make it safer for the children on our streets.
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>> 1. Letters to the neighbors. Not everyone is on this list serv. We should hand deliver a letter to all the houses in the area with requests to inform their children to be more careful as well as neighborhood drivers to keep their eyes open. I would volunteer to do this for all houses starting on Lafayette and heading east to the park.
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>> 2. More speed bumps. People race through the neighborhood at high speeds especially at night. More speed bumps would slow them down. Some kind of enforcement would also slow them down.
>> 3. Children playing signs. Something that could help keep people alert.
>> 4. Stopping people from using our area as a cut through. How can we make it less desirable to use our area to avoid 410 traffic or as a quick way to get to the new Whole Foods? Maybe something like the “do not enter” signs on Queensbury road in Hyattsville that do not apply to residents but people just passing through at certain times of the day. A few more one way streets and police to enforce it. Imagine if Ravenswood road was a one way street that you could only travel east. Cars would be much less likely to want to go through the area since it makes it that much harder to get to their destination, and possibly deter traffic from cutting through the neighborhood overall.
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>> Since I am not a traffic specialist I am only making suggestions based on what I see in the area that seems to work. I would love to see the city make a stronger effort to consider what Wholefoods could be doing to our area in terms of traffic and our children. How can we make it less attractive to use our area as a cut through? How can we inform the parents and children of the neighborhood to be more careful as we work on making the town safer for them to play in?
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>> It would be great if someone could add something like this to the agenda to the Public Safety Committee Meeting on Thursday, May 12, 2016, at 6:30 p.m. in the Conference Room of Town Hall (5008 Queensbury Road). Can anyone come? Did they ever send out an agenda?
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>> Thanks!
>> Adrian
>> Ravenswood Rd
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>>>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:27 AM, S Collins <ugglywump at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> There'd been 2 posts last months about kids playing in the street on Ravenswood Road; just a note to say I've noticed a bunch of kids playing in the streets as well, don't know if it's the same group or not (about 8-10 elementary school-age kids). I don't drive and when I get a cab to come home from the store, several times the cab has had to slow down to a stop in the 4700/4800 block of Ravenswood, as this group of children is out in the street on bikes or playing. They make no move to get out of the way of the cab. Yesterday, I left my apt. and saw this same bunch of kids walking from Ravenswood up Lafayette, in the street w/ their bikes and scooters, just goofing around. They were almost under the EW Highway overpass and a pickup truck came around the corner at speed and had to swerve way to the left to avoid hitting the children. I yelled at them to get out of the street or they could get hurt, but either their English isn't that good or they were just ignoring me, as they made no effort to get out of the way. I know kids need a place to play, I know children tend to be careless, but if this keeps up, sooner or later one or more of these children is going to get hit by a car, or cause an accident if a vehicle has to swerve around them and ends up hitting another vehicle. Can't say what should or could be done, I know the police cannot 'babysit' a particular area all the time. Perhaps the school could send out a flyer, telling parents to watch over their children, or maybe handouts at the Farmers' Market or the "Night Out Against Crime" event? Esp. with summer vacation coming up, children will be out and about more than ever. At any rate, drivers in the area, please, please be careful.
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> On May 12, 2016, at 3:57 PM, adrian limmen <adrianlimmen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your email.
>
> I see people using this area as a cut through all the time.
>
> My opinion is that kids should feel safe riding their bikes and playing in the neighborhood. This area does not need traffic that passes through. If you don't live here, have business here or are not visiting someone here you do not really need to be here. The people that live here should be extra careful. That's all I am saying. Kids will play in the streets no matter what you say to the parents. It may not be ideal but I would rather kids choose to go outside and socialize then sit inside and just play video games. (As much as I love video games)
>
> I believe we could do with more speed-bumps, especially on Ravenswood. How fast do you really need to go? That's my opinion.
>
> That "secret" cut through is coming back and coming back strong once we have a bridge that goes from here to the new Riverdale Park Station. You will see a major increase in traffic trying to avoid 410. Wouldn't you if you had that as an option?
>
> Anyway I hope we can manage to get this taken care of before its a problem. Thanks for bringing it up, I have been thinking about it for a long time.
>
> Take care!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Audrey Bragg <abragg7393 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I live on Ravenswood and don't find any extra cars down at this end speeding or cutting through. However I do object to the children playing in the street. Its a tragedy waiting to happen. The street was made for cars, not children on low to the ground toys. Many drivers have to stop for these children (both ways) and then they really can't see them since they are "driving their toys" between parked vehicles and you don't know where they are and can't see them that low to the ground. There are no parents in sight. I totally agree something needs to be done and I believe talking to the parents is a first step. The children up on that corner can ride their trikes in the dead end street where there are no cars and/or on the sidewalk where they won't get hit. We already have speed bumps on Ravenswood. I do believe when we had the "secret" outlet back by erco we did have some cut through traffic. However, with the closure of that I don't see many cut through anymore. When I see children playing in the street I always tell them to get on the sidewalk. I have gotten yelled at by parents telling me it is none of my business. My answer to them is "Yes it is my business. I am responsible for keeping children safe. Especially when no one else seems to be watching over them" I raised children here in Riverdale and they were not allowed to play in the street. I took mine to the bike trail to ride bikes or trikes. Its safer. Roads really were made for cars. I plan to go to the public safety meeting tonight, too.
>> Audrey Bragg
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: adrian limmen <adrianlimmen at gmail.com>
>> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org <towntalk at riverdale-park.org>
>> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2016 2:31 pm
>> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Children in streets - Ravenswood Road area
>>
>> I sent this before but I received an auto message that the moderator had to review it first. Looks like it never made it to the group.
>>
>> As much as the kids and parents should be aware of traffic we should also focus more of our attention on the growing number of cars abusing our neighborhood as a cut through. We are seeing more and more traffic especially on Ravenswood Rd. Cars that cut through don’t stop at the stop sign on Ravenswood and 48th where all the kids seem to be playing. I think many are people are using our area to circumvent traffic on 410 and cutting through Ravenswood to get to their destination outside of our neighborhood. With Whole Foods coming the potential cut through traffic will increase dramatically. Could we do something to make it much less attractive to vehicles trying to save a few minutes? The kids should be able to ride their bikes and play on our neighborhood streets without worry. Hyattsville and University Park have some interesting ways of managing their neighborhood traffic. They have more one way streets, speed bumps, concrete blockades and traffic patterns that make it annoying to try weaving through their neighborhoods to get around busier roads.
>>
>> Here are a few things I think Riverdale could do to make it safer for the children on our streets.
>>
>> 1. Letters to the neighbors. Not everyone is on this list serv. We should hand deliver a letter to all the houses in the area with requests to inform their children to be more careful as well as neighborhood drivers to keep their eyes open. I would volunteer to do this for all houses starting on Lafayette and heading east to the park.
>>
>> 2. More speed bumps. People race through the neighborhood at high speeds especially at night. More speed bumps would slow them down. Some kind of enforcement would also slow them down.
>> 3. Children playing signs. Something that could help keep people alert.
>> 4. Stopping people from using our area as a cut through. How can we make it less desirable to use our area to avoid 410 traffic or as a quick way to get to the new Whole Foods? Maybe something like the “do not enter” signs on Queensbury road in Hyattsville that do not apply to residents but people just passing through at certain times of the day. A few more one way streets and police to enforce it. Imagine if Ravenswood road was a one way street that you could only travel east. Cars would be much less likely to want to go through the area since it makes it that much harder to get to their destination, and possibly deter traffic from cutting through the neighborhood overall.
>>
>> Since I am not a traffic specialist I am only making suggestions based on what I see in the area that seems to work. I would love to see the city make a stronger effort to consider what Wholefoods could be doing to our area in terms of traffic and our children. How can we make it less attractive to use our area as a cut through? How can we inform the parents and children of the neighborhood to be more careful as we work on making the town safer for them to play in?
>>
>> It would be great if someone could add something like this to the agenda to the Public Safety Committee Meeting on Thursday, May 12, 2016, at 6:30 p.m. in the Conference Room of Town Hall (5008 Queensbury Road). Can anyone come? Did they ever send out an agenda?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Adrian
>> Ravenswood Rd
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:27 AM, S Collins <ugglywump at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> There'd been 2 posts last months about kids playing in the street on Ravenswood Road; just a note to say I've noticed a bunch of kids playing in the streets as well, don't know if it's the same group or not (about 8-10 elementary school-age kids). I don't drive and when I get a cab to come home from the store, several times the cab has had to slow down to a stop in the 4700/4800 block of Ravenswood, as this group of children is out in the street on bikes or playing. They make no move to get out of the way of the cab. Yesterday, I left my apt. and saw this same bunch of kids walking from Ravenswood up Lafayette, in the street w/ their bikes and scooters, just goofing around. They were almost under the EW Highway overpass and a pickup truck came around the corner at speed and had to swerve way to the left to avoid hitting the children. I yelled at them to get out of the street or they could get hurt, but either their English isn't that good or they were just ignoring me, as they made no effort to get out of the way. I know kids need a place to play, I know children tend to be careless, but if this keeps up, sooner or later one or more of these children is going to get hit by a car, or cause an accident if a vehicle has to swerve around them and ends up hitting another vehicle. Can't say what should or could be done, I know the police cannot 'babysit' a particular area all the time. Perhaps the school could send out a flyer, telling parents to watch over their children, or maybe handouts at the Farmers' Market or the "Night Out Against Crime" event? Esp. with summer vacation coming up, children will be out and about more than ever. At any rate, drivers in the area, please, please be careful.
>>>>
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>>>> For more information about Riverdale Park, visit http://www.riverdaleparkmd.info
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