Emily, you made a very good point about the horns being there for pedestrians as well as cars. Pedestrians, though, may be walking on or crossing tracks at any point along the line, and if it is not near a crossing, there would not be a horn in that case, right? In other words, pedestrians walking along the tracks are not protected by horns of trains crossing an intersection unless they are near that intersection. As for myself, I've always been nervous around train tracks and thought they were not for playing and crossing only as needed, because of the inherent danger. I keep my head spinning back and forth like a scene from The Exorcist looking for trains whenever I am in proximity of tracks. Anyone remember that horrific scene in Fried Green Tomatoes? Kids should not be told 'listen for the horn' but 'stay off the tracks!'. Thanks for bringing up the point. I understand that others don't think this activity as unusual; this is just my
thoughts on it.<br><br><b><i>towntalk-request@riverdale-park.org</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Send TownTalk mailing list submissions to<br> towntalk@riverdale-park.org<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> http://riverdale-park.org/mailman/listinfo/towntalk<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> towntalk-request@riverdale-park.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> towntalk-owner@riverdale-park.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of TownTalk digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Town Elections Times (Lou King)<br> 2. Train Horns (OurDollMom@aol.com)<br> 3. Re: TownTalk Digest, Vol 9, Issue 30 (Euniverz@aol.com)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message:
1<br>Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:58:48 -0400<br>From: Lou King <lking@knob.com><br>Subject: [RP TownTalk] Town Elections Times<br>To: TownTalk <TownTalk@riverdale-park.org><br>Message-ID: <462953B8.6020903@knob.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>When I read my Voter's Notification Card that I got in the mail late <br>today was I surprised: It has an ERROR.<br><br>The Town Election for Mayor and Council members will be on May 7, 2007 <br>from 7AM to 8PM. The polling place is Riverdale Park Town Hall.<br><br>This is the date, times and place voted by the Town Council. This <br>information was correctly reported in the April 2007 */Crier/*, there is <br>a copy at http://www.ci.riverdale-park.md.us/rptc/2007/Crier2007-04.pdf<br><br>The correct date, times and place are also correctly reported, with the <br>list of candidates, on posters around town. A copy of that notice can <br>be found at
http://www.ci.riverdale-park.md.us/Misc/2007/04/candidates.html<br><br>The Chief Elections Judge, Joyce K. Marcos, and I made every effort to <br>get the Voter's Notification Cards mailed in a timely manner with the <br>correct information. Somewhere between our hands, the Prince George's <br>County Board of Election and your mailbox, an error crept in.<br><br>Louis King<br>Deputy Chief Elections Judge<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: http://riverdale-park.org/pipermail/towntalk/attachments/20070420/47a77e74/attachment-0001.html <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:36:20 EDT<br>From: OurDollMom@aol.com<br>Subject: [RP TownTalk] Train Horns<br>To: towntalk@riverdale-park.org<br>Message-ID: <cf3.e442f93.335a0dc4@aol.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>The other day up at the town center I was<br>talking to some boys and girls about 7 yrs<br>old
- to about 10 yrs old - they were telling me<br>how much they loved the trains. Just then a<br>train came thru blowing its horn and it was a<br>very loud horn. They said Oh yes this train <br>has the loudest horn of all the trains. They <br>like to sit and watch the trains (but they do not<br>sit at the train station to watch) they watch <br>from out of the way points to be away from the<br>traffic.<br> <br>I said one day we wont hear the horns any <br>more as they are going to put up special gates<br>for more safety for the cars - then the horns will<br>not blow any more.<br> <br>One child frowned and said Oh No - then how <br>will we know a train is coming if there are no<br>horns any more. We NEVER CROSS THE<br>TRACKS HERE WHERE ALL THE CARS ARE -<br>IT IS TOO DANGEROUS. WE CROSS FURTHER<br>UP OR DOWN THE TRACKS ALL THE TIME.<br> <br>She said We cross the tracks everyday all the time<br>but never here.<br> <br>You know, this is a family neighborhood with
MANY<br>children. I think to silence the horns is very dangerous<br>--you never know when kids love the trains or the tracks or <br>have to cross back and forth multiple times in a day. <br> <br>Find out how the conductor makes a decision to blow <br>more than once or twice is important - if you want to<br>regulate the horn noise - <br> <br>BUT WE NEED SOME KIND OF HORN TO BLOW<br>FOR APPROACHING TRAINS to warn children playing<br>on or around the tracks and the homeless. <br> <br>emily<br><br><br><br>************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: http://riverdale-park.org/pipermail/towntalk/attachments/20070420/232e2f5e/attachment-0001.html <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:27:01 EDT<br>From: Euniverz@aol.com<br>Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] TownTalk Digest, Vol 9, Issue 30<br>To:
towntalk@riverdale-park.org<br>Message-ID: <d38.74bcf78.335a19a5@aol.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br> <br>Alan and all,<br> <br>I am not bringing this up to make life difficult for anyone and Alan,I <br>appreciate the difficult and hugely subjective task you have been asked to handle <br>-- determining what is electioneering and what is not. Frankly, I haven't <br>yet heard exactly what "electioneering" is; and what it should not be is, "I <br>can't explain it but I know what it is when I see it." You perform your list <br>moderator duties admirably.<br> <br>Make no mistake, I believe that to further restrict open discourse on this <br>list would be the wrong path to travel. No definition or perception of <br>electioneering should dampen open, respectful discussion between candidates, <br>incumbents and the public. That is EXACTLY why I am on this list. I also <br>appreciate the efforts others have made to establish other lists to
exchange this <br>discourse. But there are neither enough list members nor enough candidates to <br>conduct open discourse on those lists. <br> <br>This is the list on which we should be doing that. This community list <br>gives us the opportunity to stretch the boundaries of open exchange as opposed to <br>shrinking them. <br> <br>Thank you,<br> <br>Adrianne Lefkowitz<br>Madison Street<br> <br>*******************************************<br> <br>Dear Ms. Lefkowitz,<br><br>Yes, some of the statements you marked could be construed as<br>electioneering, as could many other statements that have gone out on<br>the list recently. I did not view them, in context, as<br>electioneering. If you believe I made an incorrect decision there is<br>a process for appealing my decision specified in the policy (see<br>http://riverdale-park.org/pipermail/towntalk/2007-April/001549.html).<br>Of course, I cannot pull messages that have already gone out back, but<br>if my decision
is determined to be wrong I can restrict future<br>postings more.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Alan Thompson<br>List Administrator and Acting Webmaster<br>Town of Riverdale Park<br><br>On 4/19/07, euniverz@aol.com <euniverz@aol.com> wrote:<br>><br>> Electioneering: "persuasion of voters in a political campaign"<br>><br>> Can any of the statements in the Mayor's post (see below) be construed as<br>> "electioneering"? Specifically, those statements around which I placed<br>> asterisks?<br>><br>> Not complaining, just seeking clarification.<br>><br>> Adrianne Lefkowitz (apparent Town Contrarian)<br>> Madison Street<br>><br>> Dear voters,<br>><br>> <snip>...These paper postings, along with an advertisement in a paper of<br>> general<br>> circulation (we use the Town Crier), are the Charter mandated means of<br>> getting information about elections out to you. (emphasis added AML)<br>> ****Anything that is done
by the<br>> town beyond that represents the Mayor and Council going extra steps to give<br>> information to the public.***<br>><br>> You will note that when the announcement went out electronically via<br>> the Town Announce it included for each candidate the 1) phone number; 2)<br>> email address; and 3) web site (if the candidate has one). If you want to<br>> have a one-on-one discussion with the candidates for office (Emphasis added<br>> AML) ****you are better<br>> able to do that now than in any election that has ever occurred in the<br>> history of Riverdale Park****--and Riverdale Park already had a very good<br>> record<br>> of constituent access to candidates.<br>><br>> (Emphasis added AML) ****Every Council member in one way or another<br>> advocated providing more<br>> information to improve electronic/voice access to the candidates. The only<br>> no vote on the current policy for improving this
access came from a council<br>> member who wanted to go farther still...****<br>><br>> <snip><br>><br>> Best wishes,<br>><br>> Vern<br>><br>> --<br>> (Emphasis added AML) Vernon Archer, ****Mayor<br>> Town of Riverdale Park, Maryland****<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: http://riverdale-park.org/pipermail/towntalk/attachments/20070420/c3c6ca3a/attachment-0001.html <br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>TownTalk mailing list<br>TownTalk@riverdale-park.org<br>http://riverdale-park.org/mailman/listinfo/towntalk<br><br>For more information about Riverdale Park, visit http://www.ci.riverdale-park.md.us<br><br>End of TownTalk Digest, Vol 9, Issue
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