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I like lights, I like maintenance, and I like all that phase 2
not-yet-budgeted stuff ... but I don't like fake turf, and I really
don't like requiring permits and excluding pick-up games. Fake turf is
painful for soccer players, unlike football and baseball players their
knees are uncovered. If someone can be deployed to lock and unlock the
gate for permitted groups, why can't someone be deployed to water the
natural grass every now and then?<br>
<br>
Actually, even lights I'm not so sure about. They change it from a
peaceful little slice of nature into a sports facility. Sports-field
lights can be really, really obnoxious, very big and very bright. 55-ft
lightpoles? Yech, I wouldn't want to live near it. <br>
<br>
I think an artificial-turf, lighted, controlled-access sports field
with enough parking for a crowd is out of place in our peaceful park.<br>
<br>
Lisa Grob wrote:
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is it
difficult to get a permit? Will this
eliminate use of the space for pick up games?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Lisa<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a></st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a></st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bruce.wernek@mindspring.com">bruce.wernek@mindspring.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 15,
2007 7:36
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Kate Sharpe</st1:PersonName>; TownTalk<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RP
TownTalk] turf
field</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Thanks for
the info. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">I would like
to ask our Riverdale
residents what they envision for the park. Right now there a baseball
field that's off limits unless you have a permit, a couple of tennis
courts which are accessible by all, and a possible turf field which
will
also require a permit not to mention the lights. During the school
year
and late summer the future turf field and baseball field are used by
Dematha
and other sports organizations. They will/are also be off limits for
our residents without a permit. What I would like to know is where an
I going to have a picnic, setup the volley ball net, or have a
cookout. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">It's simply
a question of your definition
of a park. When I was growing up it was a place for family gatherings,
badminton, volleyball, and playtime for the kids. Today, its become
more
and more about sports. These sports fields take up a large portion of
the
park (~30%) and are used by primarily non Riverdale residents. Now
there is a "proposal" on the table to section off another large
portion of the park for sports organizations. What's going to be left
for
us?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">-----Original
Message----- <br>
From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Kate Sharpe</st1:PersonName> <br>
<KATHERINESHARPE @yahoo.com="">Sent: Jun 14, 2007 10:44 PM <br>
To: TownTalk <br>
<TOWNTALK @riverdale-park.org="">Subject: [RP TownTalk] turf field <br>
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<o:p></o:p></TOWNTALK></KATHERINESHARPE></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font
color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Dear</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Town</st1:PlaceType></span></font></st1:place><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"> Talkers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Last night I
attended the community
meeting about the proposed turf field at the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Riverdale</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Community</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>. The
proposed
turf field would replace a worn out football/soccer field that is
consistently
in poor condition. Players using the current field run on hard packed
dirt (bad for the joints) and breathe substantial amounts of dust. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Parks and
Recreation has budgeted $750,000
for an artificial turf field, and an additional $300,000 for possible
lighting,
a tree buffer between the field and the neighborhood, moving the
basketball
court to a new location, and 23 additional parking spaces. The county
would also like to redo play areas, and add new restrooms and picnic
shelters
in a later phase that has not yet been budgeted. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Some points to
consider:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The
proposed turf field would have a life span of approximately 15 years.
Similar fields are in use in <st1:City w:st="on">Montgomery</st1:City>
and <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Fairfax</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Counties</st1:PlaceType>, and at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Georgetown</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If the
county constructs the field, they would fence it (undetermined height),
and require a permit for use. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Permits
would be granted according to a prioritized list. The Boys and Girls
Club has the highest priority. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DeMatha
would continue to use the field for lacrosse practice/games, and
football practice. Their use of the field would not increase,
according to the county and DeMatha’s athletic director. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The
field would not be useable during the day on very hot summer days,
because the artificial turf can reach temperatures of nearly 150
degrees. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The
proposed lighting would be placed on 55-ft poles (the trees surrounding
the field are approx. 65 feet high). The county would utilize newer
light control technology that increases useable light on the playing
surface while decreasing spillover light and glare. A new tree buffer
would also be added. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The
lights would be turned on when the field was actually in use, and would
be turned off by 10 p.m. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Lighting
would allow greater use of the field, especially in the fall. However,
the field could be constructed without adding lighting. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The
county is working with the MD Dept. of Environmental Resources to
mitigate potential floodplain impacts. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">The Parks and
Recreation proposal was
first presented at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Riverdale</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Park</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>’s April
Legislative
meeting. The Town Council will be discussing the proposal further at
our
June 18<sup>th</sup> Work Session. I welcome your comments and
opinions
about the proposal. Feel free to contact me on or off list
(301-779-2169).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Kate Sharpe</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: black;">Councilwoman,
Ward Two <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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