Lisa - Thank you for your wise counsel. I hope everyone will take it to heart and reflect before hitting the <send> button.<br><br>Dwight<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Lisa Grob <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lisagrob@verizon.net">lisagrob@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Dear</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> Fellow Town</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> Talkers – If folks aren’t comfortable making inquiries
on this list for fear of being denigrated or starting a flame war between
others – I think that’s very unfortunate and we should consider how
we can all communicate more civilly and try to dial down the anger and
hostility. I have seen numerous “discussions” in the last
couple of months – starting with a seemingly innocuous comment or
question - result in insults or insinuations being hurled back and forth or
just back.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Even if you genuinely think someone is being
- fill-in the blank with negative item – consider is it appropriate to
publicly insult someone? Would you say it to their face if you were talking to
your neighbor over the fence?</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">So will the next comment be an angry diatribe
that dissuades civil discourse or a more measured response that encourages
community interaction?</span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Carol Prato<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:16
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Bruce Wernek; 'Nina Faye';
<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>; 'Zach Feris'<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><b><font size="3" face="Kabel Bk BT"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Kabel Bk BT";">Guys, </span></font></b></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><b><font size="3" face="Kabel Bk BT"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Kabel Bk BT";">You don't have to argue with
one another on my account. I didn't want to start any bad bloodbetween neighbors
over my tree issues. I just thought I would ask on town talk since all of
you live around me. From now on I guess I will seek information
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">To:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> <a href="mailto:ns_faye@yahoo.com" title="ns_faye@yahoo.com" target="_blank">'Nina Faye'</a> ; <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" title="towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>
; <a href="mailto:tazimax@verizon.net" title="tazimax@verizon.net" target="_blank">'Carol
Prato'</a> ; <a href="mailto:zferis@gmail.com" title="zferis@gmail.com" target="_blank">'Zach
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> Sunday, March 14,
2010 7:53 AM</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Get off you soap
box. You wouldn’t be calling us male chauvinists if your sewer were
backed up would you? Get real!</span></font></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Nina Faye<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 13, 2010
2:30 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>;
'Carol Prato'; Zach Feris<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I do not mean to throw a rock in this discussion,
but don't you two guys think your responses are a bit "male
chauvinist?" If the lady says the top of her tree is
missing, while previously it was just leaning, that strikes me as a clear
indication someone removed it. As to why someone would have done it, in
my 63 years I have seen a lot of complete idiots hacking up trees under the
guise of "pruning." I have even tried to explain to a few
that pollarding was invented centuries ago in Europe
for the sole purpose of peasants stealing firewood from the rich, landed,
gentry. Some so called arborist was contacting people in Hyattsville
after the storm telling them that their trees needed to be
"topped." To the best of my knowledge no one fell for
the ploy. Do any of the bank security cameras point towards the injured
tree?<br>
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--- On <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sat, 3/13/10, Zach Feris <i><span style="font-style: italic;"><<a href="mailto:zferis@gmail.com" target="_blank">zferis@gmail.com</a>></span></i></span></b>
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From: Zach Feris <<a href="mailto:zferis@gmail.com" target="_blank">zferis@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism<br>
To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>, "'Carol Prato'"
<<a href="mailto:tazimax@verizon.net" target="_blank">tazimax@verizon.net</a>><br>
Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 10:54 AM</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi! Carol, I’d have to second Bruce’s
response. The entire area received record level snowfalls Feb 1-10. I’m
guessing that if you were in the hospital during this time, that is likely
the culprit behind your poor cypress tree’s unhappy beheading. A drive
around the area also shows that coniferous trees seem to have been hit
particularly hard by the snow – loads and loads are broken and in a
similar state to yours. Could this be your answer?</span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Bruce Wernek<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 13, 2010
10:41 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Carol Prato'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RP TownTalk] tree
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Carol</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We had a lot of snow recently. The weight of the snow
caused the top a cedar tree next to my driveway to break off.
I’ve also seen quite a few trees in a similar state while walking the
dog. Are you sure this isn’t what happened to your tree. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">You would need a bucket truck or ladder to cut off the
top of a tree. Why would anyone put in this much effort to do this?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bruce</span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Carol Prato<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 12, 2010
3:48 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:TownTalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">TownTalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [RP TownTalk] tree
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0033cc" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 51, 204);">I need some
help. Sometime in the last 2 weeks (I have no exact idea due to the
fact I was in the hospital), the entire top of one of my leland cyprus trees
was cut off and removed. I live in the house all by itself on 44th
place (between Suntrust bank and the Dental Group building). The tree
in question was one of my big ones along my fence line between Suntrust bank
and me. I asked Suntrust if their landscapers (Brickman) had done it,
but OF COURSE they knew nothing about it. I called the town just to
make sure they didn't do it, and they assured me that public works would
never cut a tree on private property. I am pretty sure that Suntrust's
landscapers did it because it was hanging over my fence after the snowstorm,
but they don't want to admit it due to the fact that what they would have
done would have been illegal.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#0033cc" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 51, 204);">I was hoping that
maybe someone in the neighborhood saw someone cutting the trees in that area
in the last 2 weeks. If you did or know someone that might have, please
let me know. Those trees are the only privacy I have between the
businesses and my home and now one is missing about 6 feet of tree. I
can only hope it will grow back.</span></font></p>
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