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<P>Can we dispense with the motherhood and political correctness and get on with the problem at hand. I'm sure every family in the reading audience can attest to the spats and poking that occur daily in their households. After all, in a sense we Riverdalians are a family so why should we expect anything less.</P>
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<P>Now on to the problem, I don't thing that the tree was cut down maliciously. My theory is that it was removed for a reason. Perhaps it was overhanging the parking lot interfering with the ability for people to park or intefering with phone lines. It takes a lot of effort to cut off the top of a tree. It just doesn't make sense that someone would do it for sport.</P>
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<DIV>Thank you for your post; I've felt the "sting" myself at times, when I've posted a question or comment. Constructive criticism is one thing and I don't mind some joking back and forth; however.... !</DIV>
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<DIV>As for the tree incident; unfortunately, there ARE people out there who steal trees for the firewood, for the tree itself, etc. Firewood is expensive from what I've seen and there are people out there with no concience who will take what isn't theirs. Sad but true. Due to construction, the bad storm, etc., we're losing far too many trees in town as it is, I'm sorry these trees were vandalized. </DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So will the next comment be an angry diatribe that dissuades civil discourse or a more measured response that encourages community interaction?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org [mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Carol Prato<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:16 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Bruce Wernek; 'Nina Faye'; towntalk@riverdale-park.org; 'Zach Feris'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [RP TownTalk] tree vandalism</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face="Kabel Bk BT" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Kabel Bk BT'">You don't have to argue with one another on my account. I didn't want to start any bad bloodbetween neighbors over my tree issues. I just thought I would ask on town talk since all of you live around me. From now on I guess I will seek information elsewhere.</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=ns_faye@yahoo.com href="mailto:ns_faye@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:ns_faye@yahoo.com">'Nina Faye'</A> ; <A title=towntalk@riverdale-park.org href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</A> ; <A title=tazimax@verizon.net href="mailto:tazimax@verizon.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:tazimax@verizon.net">'Carol Prato'</A> ; <A title=zferis@gmail.com href="mailto:zferis@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:zferis@gmail.com">'Zach Feris'</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:53 AM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Get off you soap box. You wouldn’t be calling us male chauvinists if your sewer were backed up would you? Get real!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I do not mean to throw a rock in this discussion, but don't you two guys think your responses are a bit "male chauvinist?" If the lady says the top of her tree is missing, while previously it was just leaning, that strikes me as a clear indication someone removed it. As to why someone would have done it, in my 63 years I have seen a lot of complete idiots hacking up trees under the guise of "pruning." I have even tried to explain to a few that pollarding was invented centuries ago in Europe for the sole purpose of peasants stealing firewood from the rich, landed, gentry. Some so called arborist was contacting people in Hyattsville after the storm telling them that their trees needed to be "topped." To the best of my knowledge no one fell for the ploy. Do any of the bank security cameras point towards the injured tree?<BR> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi! Carol, I’d have to second Bruce’s response. The entire area received record level snowfalls Feb 1-10. I’m guessing that if you were in the hospital during this time, that is likely the culprit behind your poor cypress tree’s unhappy beheading. A drive around the area also shows that coniferous trees seem to have been hit particularly hard by the snow – loads and loads are broken and in a similar state to yours. Could this be your answer?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We had a lot of snow recently. The weight of the snow caused the top a cedar tree next to my driveway to break off. I’ve also seen quite a few trees in a similar state while walking the dog. Are you sure this isn’t what happened to your tree. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#0033cc size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #0033cc; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was hoping that maybe someone in the neighborhood saw someone cutting the trees in that area in the last 2 weeks. If you did or know someone that might have, please let me know. Those trees are the only privacy I have between the businesses and my home and now one is missing about 6 feet of tree. I can only hope it will grow back.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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