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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Quite agree. I am from a West Indian culture and know how
it is with big families in a small space. Could not have said it better
about the wasted spaces in huge homes, though I am guilty of that to a point but
only because I extended from a small home to a moderate one to make more room
for my family, extended family and friends when they come to visit. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jeffrey Yorke
[mailto:yorkedial@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bruce.wernek@mindspring.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> McDougall, Sherene (Law); OurDollMom@aol.com; wheadle@yahoo.com;
towntalk@riverdale-park.org; nbmooney1@yahoo.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/apartments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bruce's theory is only one scenario in the Big City of
immigration in America. And in landlording. Most landlords are not out to beat
the tax system illegally. At least not the ones in my sphere. And we are also
not out to take advantage of tenants, citizens or undocumented
immigrants. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Long before America's recent invasions/wars broke the bank,
families and friends have been doubling up in houses. And in apartments. Part
of it has been economic beyond the economy, part of it is cultural. My own
Ukrainian relatives packed into a small house made for a fifth of the number of
those who lived there. That was during Calvin Coolidge's administration. And
it's happened to every immigrant population since, not to mentioned US born
Americans. It's just more obvious to communities when the gang is
"outsiders." And we immediately think they don't belong and that they
are here illegally. A whole lot of assuming is going on here. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>One more thing: Americans are generally a people overhoused.
Too darn much space for each person in a single house. Bathrooms that go on for
acres, kitchens large enough for Emeril Lagasse to do his show. Should we be
astounded when someone from a different culture takes new approach to otherwise
wasted space? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>As far as fear of property values going down because
"too many" people live at one address, consider if these same people
were forced to live outside the dwelling, on the street. Property values would
be really down then. And that would be the least of our problems. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:00 AM, <<a
href="mailto:bruce.wernek@mindspring.com">bruce.wernek@mindspring.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Oh please, enough with the motherhood, this has been going on for
years. There are two houses around a block from my house that have/had
multiple families living in them long before the economic downturn. One
of them, next to Ernie's Lock, was shut down about 18 months ago for this
reason. The other still has around four families living in it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>It's unfortunate, but many of these places are halfway houses for illegal
immigrants/families. This is the way it works. A citizen or a
legal immigrant buys a house. To pay for the house he/she rents
rooms to illegal immigrants/families. Since the illegal immigrants/family
have no identification, credit history, social security number(s),
etc, it's difficult if not impossible for them to rent an apartment or
find a regular job. This means that they must work as day laborers and
therefore pay their rent in cash. It's perfect for the landlord
because; there is no record of rent payments; there is no enforcement of rental
laws because as far as the county is concerned the house is not a
rental property; the landlord doesn't have to spend any money on
maintainenance, insurance, etc. because again the house is "not a rental
property"; enforcement of rental laws is lax if not non-existent; and the
landlord doesn't claim the rent as income so he/she doesn't pay any taxes on
it while still geting all of the related benefits that we taxpayers
pay for. Not only that, if the illegal immigrant/family is having
difficulty paying their rent, the landlord can threaten to turn them over to
the INS or just throw them out with absolutely no consequences. The
tenants have no recourse since they are not legal residents.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>What a country! <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-----Original Message----- <br>
From: "McDougall, Sherene (Law)" <br>
Sent: Apr 20, 2010 6:01 PM <br>
To: <a href="mailto:OurDollMom@aol.com" target="_blank">OurDollMom@aol.com</a>,
<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com" target="_blank">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>, <a
href="mailto:bruce.wernek@mindspring.com" target="_blank">bruce.wernek@mindspring.com</a>,
<a href="mailto:nbmooney1@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nbmooney1@yahoo.com</a>, <a
href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>
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Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/apartments <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Please remember that in these times when
a lot of people are losing their homes, families are bundling up and living
with relatives so as not to end up on the streets. I do agree that there
are instances where unrelated people dwell in a home, but we are all trying to
survive. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Sherene</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk-bounces@riverdale-park.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:OurDollMom@aol.com" target="_blank">OurDollMom@aol.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com" target="_blank">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:bruce.wernek@mindspring.com" target="_blank">bruce.wernek@mindspring.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:nbmooney1@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nbmooney1@yahoo.com</a>; <a
href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/apartments</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Some time ago I went to a meeting about</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>this topic. The answer was the
courts are</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>so overloaded with serious cases that the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>judges will not hear or prosecute people</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>who have multiple family members/friends</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>living with them. Also was
mentioned that</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>these people are trying to survive, make a</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>living, send money back home, etc. They</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>said the rules cannot be enforced.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>In a message dated 4/20/2010 12:30:35 P.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com" target="_blank">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>
writes:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>On the same subject, what is the maximum number of people
allowed in, for instance, a 1 bedroom apartment? Just curious...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'> "<a href="mailto:bruce.wernek@mindspring.com"
target="_blank">bruce.wernek@mindspring.com</a>" <<a
href="mailto:bruce.wernek@mindspring.com" target="_blank">bruce.wernek@mindspring.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> Nancy Mooney <<a href="mailto:nbmooney1@yahoo.com" target="_blank">nbmooney1@yahoo.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue, April 20, 2010 10:42:23 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/single family homes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:black'>I've noticed this too Nancy. This is going
on all over town.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:black'>Based on my understanding, the maximum number of
unrelated individuals allowable by law is five per household. I had to
abide by this law when I had rental property in Hyattsvile.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:black'>-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Nancy Mooney <br>
Sent: Apr 20, 2010 10:33 AM <br>
To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org" target="_blank">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>
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Subject: [RP TownTalk] multiple families/single family homes </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I have begun to wonder what the impact
is on our town of these many single family homes that are crammed with
families.<br>
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I know of one instance where a family of 4 shares a bedroom in the back of a
house. Another large family has the front of the house, and at least
one other person is living in the basement.<br>
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I think there are at least three families - by the number of 'moms' and kids
I see. (I'm assuming they are moms) in the house next to me - which has
4 bedrooms at the most.<br>
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I know this group can be very caustic - please no insults about me being
racist, or bigoted, or, whatever. These people I'm speaking of are my
friends. But it just seems unhealthy and in the long run - a burden on
the town services.<br>
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What I would like to know is what are the costs to the town, and what can we
do to reduce this impact?<br>
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Nancy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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