When they dug the Metro tunnel from College Park to PG Plaza, they went under Queens Chapel Road, and peoples' brick houses settled, twisted and cracked. If you walk (or drive or bike) along the flat part at the bottom of the hill, you can see the huge cracks along the fronts. A good friend of mine grew up there, and his family's house was one of them. They lobbied pretty hard to close the road, and in fact I believe the town acquired the road from the state for this very purpose and no other.<br>
<br>I think closing Queensbury to non-local traffic would be a death-knell for Dumms, and I do not want that at all. I think the solution may be two-fold: fixing Route 1 and 410 to lessen the urge to 'cut-through', as well as maybe making it suck more, if you do: speed bumps, stop signs at every corner, very low speed limit with a rack of expensive ticket-cameras maybe? On the other hand, I know this would be a drag for those living further into the neighborhood than me.<br>
<br>I live on Queensbury between Route 1 and the tracks, and will say that when I am northbound on Route 1, it is a rare day that I make it to Queensbury without ditching and cutting through - often as far south as Cleveland, and almost certainly by Oliver or Riverdale. Route 1 is nightmarish.<br>
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1. Eye doctor recommendation (erika wilson)<br>
2. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
(Nicholas Laureys)<br>
3. Re: Eye doctor recommendation (Melissa Avery)<br>
4. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins) (Melissa Avery)<br>
5. Riverdale Volunteer Fire Department will be hosting a<br>
"Quarter Auction" (Nova Johns)<br>
6. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins) (Lou King)<br>
7. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins) (Sue Collins)<br>
8. Support Riverdale Elementary PTO (Christina Burton)<br>
9. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins) (Melissa Avery)<br>
10. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins) (Nina Faye)<br>
11. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, buses (Sue Collins) (Sue Collins)<br>
12. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins) (Lou King)<br>
13. Re: Route 1 and Queensbury Road (Bill Carr)<br>
14. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins) (Sue Collins)<br>
15. Re: Route 1, Queensbury, buses (Sue Collins) (Aaron Marcavitch)<br>
16. Re: Eye doctor recommendation (Sarah Wayland)<br>
17. Re: Eye doctor recommendation (Sarah Wayland)<br>
18. Re: Eye doctor recommendation (Robert Hopkins)<br>
19. Queens Chapel Road (<a href="mailto:johnferg27@aol.com">johnferg27@aol.com</a>)<br>
20. Re: Queens Chapel Road (Aaron Marcavitch)<br>
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:10:06 +0000<br>
From: erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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Hey fellow Riverdale neighbors<br>
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I'm looking for a good eye doctor in the area. I checked out the HOPE listserv and the only recommendation was for a doctor at Costco and I am not a member. Please send any recs you have, thanks!<br>
<br>
Erika<br>
Nicholson St.<br>
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From: Nicholas Laureys <<a href="mailto:nicholas.laureys@gmail.com">nicholas.laureys@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue<br>
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Could someone please tell us why Queens Chapel Road is closed where it goes<br>
through University Park?<br>
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I was only a child in Riverdale Park in the '90s and it was already blocked<br>
off by then so I don't know the circumstances of it closure. What I DO know<br>
is the fact that this road is closed off causes Washington, DC commuters to<br>
cut through Queensbury, MD 410, and Riverdale Road, causing us all the<br>
headaches described in these earlier posts. I recall hearing that some<br>
politician (Glendening??) lived in University Park and was able to<br>
facilitate its closure. If that's the case, then forget the 'Do not block<br>
intersection' signs, selective police enforcement, extra left turn lanes,<br>
and speed humps - what we need is for a state-level politician to move in to<br>
our town and close off Queensbury Road!<br>
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--Nicholas<br>
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> Message: 11<br>
> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 04:17:58 -0700 (PDT)<br>
> From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:bruce.wernek@mindspring.com">bruce.wernek@mindspring.com</a>, <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
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> To: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
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> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond<br>
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> Looks like those folks are out to win the "Darwin Award".<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> >From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> >Sent: Aug 3, 2011 12:25 PM<br>
> >To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
> >Subject: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond<br>
> ><br>
> >Ever walk around Lafayette and Queensbury at rush hour in the morning?? Or<br>
> I<br>
> >should say, try to?? Cars ARE backed all the way from Route 1 to Lafayette<br>
> and<br>
> >what makes it interesting is; sometimes, instead of waiting on the east<br>
> side of<br>
><br>
> >the tracks for traffic to clear so they can cross safely, I'll see cars in<br>
> >traffic parked ON the railroad tracks!? Hey, they don't mind putting<br>
> themselves<br>
><br>
> >at risk........?? And in addition;?the cars will many times be backed up<br>
> from<br>
> >the tracks along Lafayette back to Ravenswood Road.?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >As for the signs saying "do not block intersection?"? Might as well save<br>
> your<br>
> >money and not bother; there is (or was?) a sign for northbound traffic at<br>
> >Queensbury and Route?1 and it's the norm for people to park right in the<br>
> middle<br>
><br>
> >of the intersection.? A real shame, but it does as much good as those stop<br>
> >signs, "traffic calming lines," etc. we have in town along Lafayette/?<br>
> When I'm<br>
><br>
> >out walking I notice it when people DO stop at a stop sign or don't block<br>
> the<br>
> >intersections.? And yes, friends and neighbors, it's?gonna get worse.... ?<br>
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To: erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>>,<br>
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Dr. Kaplan in Greenbelt. The retna group of washington.<br>
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From: erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:10 AM<br>
Subject: [RP TownTalk] Eye doctor recommendation<br>
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Hey fellow Riverdale neighbors<br>
?<br>
I'm looking for a good eye doctor in the area. I checked out the HOPE listserv and the only recommendation was for?a doctor at Costco and I am not a member. Please send any recs you have, thanks!<br>
?<br>
Erika<br>
Nicholson St.<br>
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From: Melissa Avery <<a href="mailto:m.avery@rocketmail.com">m.avery@rocketmail.com</a>><br>
To: Nicholas Laureys <<a href="mailto:nicholas.laureys@gmail.com">nicholas.laureys@gmail.com</a>>,<br>
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Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue<br>
Collins)<br>
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410 was put through Riverdale Park in 1967 taking out 66 large Victorian homes and dividing the town in half. That was suppose to keep people from using Riverdale road and Queensbury road as cut through from Hyattsville and New Carroliton.<br>
?<br>
Back in the 1950's both sides of Riverdale Park experienced huge building booms, similar to today.<br>
?<br>
This caused several huge problems for the town.? One was that it became a cut through. The traffic was so bad and there were so many car ?accidents with the railway that CSX planned to permanently close the at grade crossing.<br>
?<br>
Town politicians, including Guy Tiberio, went o the state and made sure the crossing was left open. They relized if it were closed it would only further segment the town.<br>
?<br>
Personally, I think it should be only open at specified times of the day or to town residents, similar to the part of Queesburry in Hyattsville.<br>
?<br>
?<br>
The other major problem brought about by the building boom was flooding.<br>
?<br>
All the land surrounding Riverdale Park is a flood plane. The increased building, he lack of research on the kind of land, led to terrible flooding through this entire part of Prince Georges County.<br>
?<br>
The Army Corp of Engineers paved the tributaries and straightened out the river in 1957. that eliminated the flooding. This restructuring of nature is starting o fail.<br>
?<br>
Today FEMA is reexamining the leaves and pumping stations. They are soon going to be building he sides of the river up three feet. bringing in gigantic dump trucks filled with clay dirt.<br>
The level of the river will also rise.<br>
So that is another thing we have to look forward to.<br>
?<br>
As the saying goes those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.<br>
<br>
From: Nicholas Laureys <<a href="mailto:nicholas.laureys@gmail.com">nicholas.laureys@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:26 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
<br>
<br>
Could someone please tell us why Queens Chapel Road is closed where it goes through University Park? ?<br>
<br>
I was only a child in Riverdale Park in the '90s and it was already blocked off by then so I don't know the circumstances of it closure. ?What I DO know is the fact that this road is closed off causes Washington, DC commuters to cut through Queensbury, MD 410, and Riverdale Road, causing us all the headaches described in these earlier posts. ?I recall hearing that some politician (Glendening??) lived in University Park and was able to facilitate its closure. ?If that's the case, then forget the 'Do not block intersection' signs, selective police enforcement, extra left turn lanes, and speed humps - what we need is for a state-level politician to move in to our town and close off Queensbury Road!<br>
<br>
--Nicholas?<br>
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>Message: 11<br>
>Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 04:17:58 -0700 (PDT)<br>
>From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>To: <a href="mailto:bruce.wernek@mindspring.com">bruce.wernek@mindspring.com</a>, <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
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>Well, I WAS going to say something, but my sense of humor tends towards the<br>
>skewed anyhow, so thought I'd better not.? ? ;)<br>
><br>
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>To: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
>Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 3:14:00 PM<br>
>Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond<br>
><br>
>Looks like those folks are out to win the "Darwin Award".<br>
><br>
><br>
>-----Original Message-----<br>
>>From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>>Sent: Aug 3, 2011 12:25 PM<br>
>>To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
>>Subject: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond<br>
>><br>
>>Ever walk around Lafayette and Queensbury at rush hour in the morning?? Or I<br>
>>should say, try to?? Cars ARE backed all the way from Route 1 to Lafayette and<br>
>>what makes it interesting is; sometimes, instead of waiting on the east side of<br>
><br>
>>the tracks for traffic to clear so they can cross safely, I'll see cars in<br>
>>traffic parked ON the railroad tracks!? Hey, they don't mind putting themselves<br>
><br>
>>at risk........?? And in addition;?the cars will many times be backed up from<br>
>>the tracks along Lafayette back to Ravenswood Road.?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>As for the signs saying "do not block intersection?"? Might as well save your<br>
>>money and not bother; there is (or was?) a sign for northbound traffic at<br>
>>Queensbury and Route?1 and it's the norm for people to park right in the middle<br>
><br>
>>of the intersection.? A real shame, but it does as much good as those stop<br>
>>signs, "traffic calming lines," etc. we have in town along Lafayette/? When I'm<br>
><br>
>>out walking I notice it when people DO stop at a stop sign or don't block the<br>
>>intersections.? And yes, friends and neighbors, it's?gonna get worse.... ?<br>
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 06:49:51 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Nova Johns <<a href="mailto:novajohns@yahoo.com">novajohns@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [RP TownTalk] Riverdale Volunteer Fire Department will be<br>
hosting a "Quarter Auction"<br>
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Riverdale?Volunteer Fire Department will be?hosting?a "Quarter Auction" on Saturday, August 13th, at the Masonic Temple, 11?Crain?Highway, Glen?Burnie?MD. The doors open at 6:00PM. and the Auction starts at 7:00PM. There will be food for sale and some of the vendors include Avon, The Bag Lady (purses), Pampered Chef, Celebrating Home and many more. The?Riverdale?Fire Department will have several prizes up for auction. Which include several Gift Baskets, and the grand prize for the night will be a two night stay at The Holiday Inn (Washington Central Location). This prize alone is valued at $300. Come on out for a night of fun and excitement.<br>
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5.00 Admission- includes 2 free auction paddles (extra paddles available for purchase)<br>
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Tickets can be purchased from Secretary Nova Johns @ <a href="mailto:novajohns@yahoo.com">novajohns@yahoo.com</a> or you can purchase them at the door, just be sure to inform them that you are there for the?Riverdale?Fire Department Fundraiser.<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 08:50:43 -0600<br>
From: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue<br>
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Melissa Avery wrote, On 8/4/2011 7:18 AM:<br>
> Personally, I think it should be only open at specified times of the day<br>
> or to town residents, similar to the part of Queesburry in Hyattsville.<br>
<br>
I wonder how that would effect deliveries to businesses in town like<br>
Dumm's, Geppetto Catering, S & J's or those folks north along Rhode<br>
Island Ave or in Town Center?<br>
<br>
Of course there would need to be exceptions for the Fire Department so<br>
that Ward 1 could continue to get good fire and ambulance service.<br>
<br>
Maybe we should make Riverdale Park a gated community. But that might<br>
force people to cut through Edmonston. Not sure how Guy would like that.<br>
<br>
Maybe we could go back to 1967 and close 410. That would reunite the<br>
town; well except for those people that would have even more traffic in<br>
front of their homes.<br>
<br>
Personally I think you can stand in the way of progress and get left<br>
behind or plan for the inevitable so it has the least adverse affect and<br>
the best advantage.<br>
<br>
Trying to hold back progress is like yelling at the tide, eventually you<br>
just get your feet wet.<br>
<br>
Lou<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 07:58:42 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue<br>
Collins)<br>
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Just my humble opinion of course, but I don't see uncontrolled growth and<br>
unregulated traffic as being 'progress.'? Don't know that closing off the roads<br>
to all but locals would be a great idea, but really; with all of the new<br>
apartments and condos springing up all over the area, it's pretty much a given<br>
that traffic in our town WILL get much, much worse.? Doesn't even have to be<br>
auto traffic, does anyone in town besides myself ride the bus?? Most of the time<br>
on the F4, which goes from New Carrollton Metro to Silver Spring, via PG Metro,<br>
you can't even get a seat and many times you can't even get on the bus; it's so<br>
crowded it'll pass you by at the stop.? Other local bus patrons in the area have<br>
noticed this, too, the buses are much, much more crowded than they used to be.?<br>
Sorry, if I can't even get on the bus to get a seat (or stand), that's not<br>
progress, either.? JMO of course<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 10:50:43 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
<br>
Melissa Avery wrote, On 8/4/2011 7:18 AM:<br>
> Personally, I think it should be only open at specified times of the day<br>
> or to town residents, similar to the part of Queesburry in Hyattsville.<br>
<br>
I wonder how that would effect deliveries to businesses in town like Dumm's,<br>
Geppetto Catering, S & J's or those folks north along Rhode Island Ave or in<br>
Town Center?<br>
<br>
Of course there would need to be exceptions for the Fire Department so that Ward<br>
1 could continue to get good fire and ambulance service.<br>
<br>
Maybe we should make Riverdale Park a gated community. But that might force<br>
people to cut through Edmonston. Not sure how Guy would like that.<br>
<br>
Maybe we could go back to 1967 and close 410. That would reunite the town; well<br>
except for those people that would have even more traffic in front of their<br>
homes.<br>
<br>
Personally I think you can stand in the way of progress and get left behind or<br>
plan for the inevitable so it has the least adverse affect and the best<br>
advantage.<br>
<br>
Trying to hold back progress is like yelling at the tide, eventually you just<br>
get your feet wet.<br>
<br>
Lou<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:02:45 +0000<br>
From: "Christina Burton" <<a href="mailto:cdburton1989@gmail.com">cdburton1989@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Town Talk" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Subject: [RP TownTalk] Support Riverdale Elementary PTO<br>
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Please support the Riverdale Elementary PTO by supporting their participation in Macy's Shop For A Cause. This event takes place all day on Saturday, August 27th. The All Day Savings pass cost $5.00 and is worth 25% on regular, sale, and clearance items. The discount in electronics, furniture, and mattresses is 10%.<br>
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This fundraiser is 100% profit for the PTO and increases our efforts in supporting Riverdale Elementary School, teachers, and students. Purchase as many as you would like. For more information or to purchase your shopping pass(es), contact Christina Burton @<a href="tel:3013579803" value="+13013579803">3013579803</a>.<br>
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"Always Making the Best of My Day"<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:14:42 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Melissa Avery <<a href="mailto:m.avery@rocketmail.com">m.avery@rocketmail.com</a>><br>
To: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>>, Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>>,<br>
"<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue<br>
Collins)<br>
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?the University of MD Shutle that stops at Rathion? then the college park metro should go three more blocks to Riverdale town center.<br>
?<br>
That bus?runs in the morning and afternoon rush hour and is a free ride.<br>
<br>
From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 10:58 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
<br>
Just my humble opinion of course, but I don't see uncontrolled growth and<br>
unregulated traffic as being 'progress.'? Don't know that closing off the roads<br>
to all but locals would be a great idea, but really; with all of the new<br>
apartments and condos springing up all over the area, it's pretty much a given<br>
that traffic in our town WILL get much, much worse.? Doesn't even have to be<br>
auto traffic, does anyone in town besides myself ride the bus?? Most of the time<br>
on the F4, which goes from New Carrollton Metro to Silver Spring, via PG Metro,<br>
you can't even get a seat and many times you can't even get on the bus; it's so<br>
crowded it'll pass you by at the stop.? Other local bus patrons in the area have<br>
noticed this, too, the buses are much, much more crowded than they used to be.?<br>
Sorry, if I can't even get on the bus to get a seat (or stand), that's not<br>
progress, either.? JMO of course<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 10:50:43 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
<br>
Melissa Avery wrote, On 8/4/2011 7:18 AM:<br>
> Personally, I think it should be only open at specified times of the day<br>
> or to town residents, similar to the part of Queesburry in Hyattsville.<br>
<br>
I wonder how that would effect deliveries to businesses in town like Dumm's,<br>
Geppetto Catering, S & J's or those folks north along Rhode Island Ave or in<br>
Town Center?<br>
<br>
Of course there would need to be exceptions for the Fire Department so that Ward<br>
1 could continue to get good fire and ambulance service.<br>
<br>
Maybe we should make Riverdale Park a gated community. But that might force<br>
people to cut through Edmonston. Not sure how Guy would like that.<br>
<br>
Maybe we could go back to 1967 and close 410. That would reunite the town; well<br>
except for those people that would have even more traffic in front of their<br>
homes.<br>
<br>
Personally I think you can stand in the way of progress and get left behind or<br>
plan for the inevitable so it has the least adverse affect and the best<br>
advantage.<br>
<br>
Trying to hold back progress is like yelling at the tide, eventually you just<br>
get your feet wet.<br>
<br>
Lou<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:55:40 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Nina Faye <<a href="mailto:ns_faye@yahoo.com">ns_faye@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>"<br>
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With all the discussion about 410--I think Takoma Park had the right idea.? They refused "to play" and still have a lovely community without a major highway through the middle of it.? We live on Queensbury in Hyattsville.? Before the "Do Not Enter" signs went up, there were mornings?when I was late to work on Campus, because no one would let me out of my driveway.? With all the new development, afternoons can be awful getting into and out of our drive.? I don't see much of the development as progress.? I preferred the cattails, redwing blackbirds, and blooming trees at the Metro.? Just another opinion, Nina<br>
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--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
To: "Lou King" <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 10:58 AM<br>
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<br>
Just my humble opinion of course, but I don't see uncontrolled growth and<br>
unregulated traffic as being 'progress.'? Don't know that closing off the roads<br>
to all but locals would be a great idea, but really; with all of the new<br>
apartments and condos springing up all over the area, it's pretty much a given<br>
that traffic in our town WILL get much, much worse.? Doesn't even have to be<br>
auto traffic, does anyone in town besides myself ride the bus?? Most of the time<br>
on the F4, which goes from New Carrollton Metro to Silver Spring, via PG Metro,<br>
you can't even get a seat and many times you can't even get on the bus; it's so<br>
crowded it'll pass you by at the stop.? Other local bus patrons in the area have<br>
noticed this, too, the buses are much, much more crowded than they used to be.?<br>
Sorry, if I can't even get on the bus to get a seat (or stand), that's not<br>
progress, either.? JMO of course<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 10:50:43 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
<br>
Melissa Avery wrote, On 8/4/2011 7:18 AM:<br>
> Personally, I think it should be only open at specified times of the day<br>
> or to town residents, similar to the part of Queesburry in Hyattsville.<br>
<br>
I wonder how that would effect deliveries to businesses in town like Dumm's,<br>
Geppetto Catering, S & J's or those folks north along Rhode Island Ave or in<br>
Town Center?<br>
<br>
Of course there would need to be exceptions for the Fire Department so that Ward<br>
1 could continue to get good fire and ambulance service.<br>
<br>
Maybe we should make Riverdale Park a gated community. But that might force<br>
people to cut through Edmonston. Not sure how Guy would like that.<br>
<br>
Maybe we could go back to 1967 and close 410. That would reunite the town; well<br>
except for those people that would have even more traffic in front of their<br>
homes.<br>
<br>
Personally I think you can stand in the way of progress and get left behind or<br>
plan for the inevitable so it has the least adverse affect and the best<br>
advantage.<br>
<br>
Trying to hold back progress is like yelling at the tide, eventually you just<br>
get your feet wet.<br>
<br>
Lou<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:07:47 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: Melissa Avery <<a href="mailto:m.avery@rocketmail.com">m.avery@rocketmail.com</a>>, Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>>,<br>
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That particular bus goes to the University of MD site, the USDA building,<br>
Raytheon, and, I think, American Physics building and then down to the College<br>
Park Metro Station.? I guess that's just for people who work in those<br>
buildings?? Speaking of which, ARE town residents allowed to ride any?the U of<br>
MD Shuttles now?? I'd heard that was in the discussion phase some time ago,<br>
never heard any more about it.? I've also asked some of "The Bus" (county bus)<br>
drivers if "The Bus" will ever run on weekends.? That would be of some help but<br>
as of now, they just run on weekdays.? The drivers have said it's been talked<br>
about but here again, nothing seems to be done.? Hmmm, maybe a town<br>
shuttle/trolley?? Maybe it would help to get people out of their cars and into<br>
public transportation?? And if it was worked like New Orleans, maybe even be a<br>
selling point for the town?? Let's see, instead of streetcars named Desire, how<br>
about....."Calvert?"? "Rosalie?"? (well, maybe not) (smile)<br>
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From: Melissa Avery <<a href="mailto:m.avery@rocketmail.com">m.avery@rocketmail.com</a>><br>
To: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>>; Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>>;<br>
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Sent: Thu, August 4, 2011 11:14:42 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
<br>
<br>
?the University of MD Shutle that stops at Rathion? then the college park metro<br>
should go three more blocks to Riverdale town center.<br>
?<br>
That bus?runs in the morning and afternoon rush hour and is a free ride.<br>
<br>
From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>"<br>
<<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 10:58 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue Collins)<br>
<br>
Just my humble opinion of course, but I don't see uncontrolled growth and<br>
unregulated traffic as being 'progress.'? Don't know that closing off the roads<br>
to all but locals would be a great idea, but really; with all of the new<br>
apartments and condos springing up all over the area, it's pretty much a given<br>
that traffic in our town WILL get much, much worse.? Doesn't even have to be<br>
auto traffic, does anyone in town besides myself ride the bus?? Most of the time<br>
<br>
on the F4, which goes from New Carrollton Metro to Silver Spring, via PG Metro,<br>
you can't even get a seat and many times you can't even get on the bus; it's so<br>
crowded it'll pass you by at the stop.? Other local bus patrons in the area have<br>
<br>
noticed this, too, the buses are much, much more crowded than they used to be.?<br>
Sorry, if I can't even get on the bus to get a seat (or stand), that's not<br>
progress, either.? JMO of course<br>
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To: "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
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Melissa Avery wrote, On 8/4/2011 7:18 AM:<br>
> Personally, I think it should be only open at specified times of the day<br>
> or to town residents, similar to the part of Queesburry in Hyattsville.<br>
<br>
I wonder how that would effect deliveries to businesses in town like Dumm's,<br>
Geppetto Catering, S & J's or those folks north along Rhode Island Ave or in<br>
Town Center?<br>
<br>
Of course there would need to be exceptions for the Fire Department so that Ward<br>
<br>
1 could continue to get good fire and ambulance service.<br>
<br>
Maybe we should make Riverdale Park a gated community. But that might force<br>
people to cut through Edmonston. Not sure how Guy would like that.<br>
<br>
Maybe we could go back to 1967 and close 410. That would reunite the town; well<br>
except for those people that would have even more traffic in front of their<br>
homes.<br>
<br>
Personally I think you can stand in the way of progress and get left behind or<br>
plan for the inevitable so it has the least adverse affect and the best<br>
advantage.<br>
<br>
Trying to hold back progress is like yelling at the tide, eventually you just<br>
get your feet wet.<br>
<br>
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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:55:16 -0600<br>
From: Lou King <<a href="mailto:lking@knob.com">lking@knob.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue<br>
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Sue Collins wrote, On 8/4/2011 8:58 AM:<br>
> Just my humble opinion of course, but I don't see uncontrolled growth and<br>
> unregulated traffic as being 'progress.'<br>
<br>
Nor do I Sue. I was trying to suggest that the alternative is to "plan<br>
for the inevitable so it has the least adverse affect and the best<br>
advantage." The 'Don't grow' view has been tried and there are may<br>
examples of communities and towns that have tried that approach and<br>
failed. They have tried to control growth by deciding NOT to build<br>
infrastructure for example. 'If you don't build roads, they won't come<br>
here to live, that will control growth.'<br>
<br>
Learning from the past, if there is a need people move in anyway and<br>
over crowd the old roads. It has been tried with roads, electrical power<br>
(No new power lines here!), water and sewers. All have failed. They<br>
ended up with over crowed roads, brown-outs, water rationing, or<br>
treatment plants that dump raw sewage into the streams.<br>
<br>
With increasing population and increasing energy cost, increases in<br>
population density are inevitable. Although we know how to control<br>
population (family planning, war, genocide, China's one son policy) we<br>
don't know how to implement controls in a civil society. So we _must_<br>
plan for the growth; things like more buses or the Purple Line that go<br>
from where the people live, to where they work, when they need to go.<br>
(and don't give up on all the options for family planning.)<br>
<br>
We seem to want it both ways in Riverdale. Not long ago the hot topic<br>
here was how bad the Purple Line would be for Riverdale Park. Now we are<br>
complaining about all the traffic that the Purple Line will help to<br>
alleviate. We suggest going underground with the Purple Line but<br>
complain about taxes and the cost of government. The constant I see is<br>
complaining.<br>
<br>
Things change, manage the change you can't stop it. History has its<br>
place. I and my alter ego happen to live in two historic districts in<br>
houses built around 1900-1906 one in a mining town started in 1886. Look<br>
at my driveway two 50 year old trailers.<br>
<br>
I like the quality/craftsmanship of some older things. On the other hand<br>
I just helped put on a children's play in the 1900 Town Hall that was<br>
restored after a fire in 1992. The Historical Society insisted that the<br>
building be restored exactly - down to the original 10amp electrical<br>
circuits. We had stage lights plugged in with extension cords running to<br>
every circuit in the building. History has its place, but... things<br>
change. The Town has trouble running its computer, printer/copier, a<br>
modern phone system.<br>
<br>
This is starting to sound like COC wrote it.<br>
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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:42:29 -0400<br>
From: Bill Carr <<a href="mailto:wcarr@greenheron.net">wcarr@greenheron.net</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1 and Queensbury Road<br>
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43rd Street, half RP/half Hyattsville, is always impossible when 410 is<br>
rerouted and trying to cross Route 1 at Queensbury is, as noted<br>
frustrating and dangerous after 3:00 (he says on Farmers' Market day).<br>
Seems to me our neighboring towns are making great use of traffic<br>
cameras, which should address blocking the box fairly unambiguously, no?<br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:17:21 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Sue Collins <<a href="mailto:wheadle@yahoo.com">wheadle@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: "<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, and beyond (Sue<br>
Collins)<br>
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As I've said before, 'controlled' is the word; a good phrase to use would also<br>
be "plan ahead;" there's lots of suburbs in the DC/MD/VA area where growth has<br>
occurred and it seems only AFTER the growth has occurred that people address the<br>
problems like an increase in traffic, the need for more public services, etc.?<br>
If we want to invite the traffic, etc., into town and not try to take steps to<br>
deal with it, well, that's up to the powers that be;?I've lived in my present<br>
location almost 25 years and in the area for several years before that.? While I<br>
realize that a certain amount of change IS inevitable, I remember the area<br>
before the Metro system and the Beltway?even existed; when those plans started<br>
taking off, all you heard was how these were going to do SO much for the area,<br>
traffic would be better, etc.? Last time I looked, there's still LOTS of traffic<br>
problems out there, on a?continual basis.?I can also see that our great town is<br>
slowly being nibbled away and not a whole lot of people seem to care, it's all<br>
about the almighty dollar.? Or maybe they think we can somehow keep our<br>
neighborhood intact yet overbuild and overpopulate the town? Oh well,what I<br>
think isn't of much importance anyhow; people who don't own homes, even if<br>
they've lived in the same place 25 years as I have, and who don't own cars have<br>
about as much political influence and social standing as the red-headed<br>
stepchild at the family reunion.?? See ya-<br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 10:38:01 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Aaron Marcavitch <<a href="mailto:acornhp@yahoo.com">acornhp@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Route 1, Queensbury, buses (Sue Collins)<br>
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Sue,<br>
?<br>
There is progress ongoing to get the 17 TheBUS to be a "circulator" route to get people to the region's sites.? While it wouldn't be a town trolley, it will indicate locations such as Riversdale for folks to get off.? ATHA will likely create a companion piece that indicates what you will see when you get off at those sites.? This route was re-routed to include College Park Metro stop and there is efforts to lengthen its operating schedule.? The progress is still ongoing, but there is movement behind the scenes.?<br>
?<br>
ATHA's hope is that this circulator idea will be something that visitors can take the green line to College Park, ride the 17 to Riverdale Park, Hyattsville, etc and visit our great sites and places.? We are also going to make sure there is an obvious connection between the 17 and the Battle of Bladensburg commemoration in the Port Towns (either via the F8 or a new shuttle).?<br>
?<br>
(Speaking of which, make sure August 13 is on your calendar to attend the Battle Encampment at Riversdale.? Noon to 4pm, lots of fun!)<br>
?<br>
Aaron<br>
Anacostia Trails Heritage Area<br>
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<br>
I've also asked some of "The Bus" (county bus) drivers if "The Bus" will ever run on weekends.? That would be of some help but as of now, they just run on weekdays.? The drivers have said it's been talked about but here again, nothing seems to be done.? Hmmm, maybe a town shuttle/trolley?? Maybe it would help to get people out of their cars and into public transportation??<br>
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 16:20:57 -0400<br>
From: Sarah Wayland <<a href="mailto:sarah.wayland@gmail.com">sarah.wayland@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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We've seen Dr. Malouf on Baltimore Avenue in Hyattsville for years.<br>
<br>
Dr. George S. Malouf<br>
5802 Baltimore Ave<br>
Hyattsville, MD 20781<br>
Practice: <a href="tel:%28301%29%20277-9161" value="+13012779161">(301) 277-9161</a><br>
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-Sarah<br>
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:10 AM, erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hey fellow Riverdale neighbors<br>
><br>
> I'm looking for a good eye doctor in the area. I checked out the HOPE<br>
> listserv and the only recommendation was for?a doctor at Costco and I am not<br>
> a member. Please send any recs you have, thanks!<br>
><br>
> Erika<br>
> Nicholson St.<br>
><br>
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Message: 17<br>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 13:41:25 -0700<br>
From: Sarah Wayland <<a href="mailto:sarah.wayland@gmail.com">sarah.wayland@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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We've seen Dr. Malouf on Baltimore Avenue in Hyattsville for years.<br>
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Dr. George S. Malouf<br>
5802 Baltimore Ave<br>
Hyattsville, MD 20781<br>
Practice: <a href="tel:%28301%29%20277-9161" value="+13012779161">(301) 277-9161</a><br>
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-Sarah<br>
<br>
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:10 AM, erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hey fellow Riverdale neighbors<br>
><br>
> I'm looking for a good eye doctor in the area. I checked out the HOPE<br>
> listserv and the only recommendation was for?a doctor at Costco and I am not<br>
> a member. Please send any recs you have, thanks!<br>
><br>
> Erika<br>
> Nicholson St.<br>
><br>
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:03:16 -0400<br>
From: Robert Hopkins <<a href="mailto:marylandraven@gmail.com">marylandraven@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Melissa Avery <<a href="mailto:m.avery@rocketmail.com">m.avery@rocketmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>>,<br>
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Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Eye doctor recommendation<br>
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Well since I work at For Eyes in Bethesda and have met Dr Berry in Greenbelt<br>
many time might I suggest him. He give a great no nonsense exam and knows<br>
what you need without trying to get you to order things you just don't need.<br>
He get no money from For Eyes from what you buy.<br>
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Melissa Avery <<a href="mailto:m.avery@rocketmail.com">m.avery@rocketmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> Dr. Kaplan in Greenbelt. The retna group of washington.<br>
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> *From:* erika wilson <<a href="mailto:erikawilson@hotmail.com">erikawilson@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> *To:* <a href="mailto:towntalk@riverdale-park.org">towntalk@riverdale-park.org</a><br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:10 AM<br>
> *Subject:* [RP TownTalk] Eye doctor recommendation<br>
><br>
> Hey fellow Riverdale neighbors<br>
><br>
> I'm looking for a good eye doctor in the area. I checked out the HOPE<br>
> listserv and the only recommendation was for a doctor at Costco and I am not<br>
> a member. Please send any recs you have, thanks!<br>
><br>
> Erika<br>
> Nicholson St.<br>
><br>
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:43:41 -0400 (EDT)<br>
From: "<a href="mailto:johnferg27@aol.com">johnferg27@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:johnferg27@aol.com">johnferg27@aol.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [RP TownTalk] Queens Chapel Road<br>
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I recall only too well when Queens Chapel Road was closed to through traffic. It was in the late 1980s. The road was turned over to the Town of UP by the State (until then it was a State route) which gave UP the autonomy to declare it closed and dedicate it to internal traffic only. I was about as upset at their selfishness then (steamed is another word for it) as I am sure you are today. There was nothing that could be done about it as it was their right to take this action. Yes, Glendenning did live there then -- however, while he has moved on, Sen. Paul Pinsky lives there now. Perhaps a well organized effort could be made to approach Senator Pinsky and solicit his support in having the town government reverse their decision and open the road to help ease the "bad getting worse" traffic that you all experience each day. Back ten years ago, I have been in University Park at the northern most end of Queens Chapel and looked south -- Queens Chapel Road was completely em<br>
pty of moving traffic -- a few cars parked at the curb and a few people walking along the sidewalk. I expect it is the same today.<br>
<br>
While opening it to traffic will not solve your multiple problems, it would give a little ease to the pain.<br>
<br>
Also, there have been numerous studies of the gridlock at Queensbury and Route 1. One proposal made years ago was to paint a square from curb to curb to curb dedicating it as a "do not enter unless moving along" zone with significant fines. I don't recall right now whether the State nixed that proposal -- apparently that system is used in some sections of cities in the northeast and does help -- it would be worth reopening the subject, but just putting up more signs won't help -- they've been there forever and are totally ignored.<br>
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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: Aaron Marcavitch <<a href="mailto:acornhp@yahoo.com">acornhp@yahoo.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Queens Chapel Road<br>
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Let me know if I am missing this - but at the end of Queens Chapel is a curb which was just finished. Additionally, that intersection would become a five way at East/West.<br>
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I'm not speaking on this as a pro- or con- issue, I'm just trying to get clear.<br>
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While opening it to traffic will not solve your multiple problems, it would give a little?ease to the pain.<br>
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