<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></div>Very interesting; sounds like the wider community needs to know details and provide input to our respective governing bodies. My first question would be, "Why was Cafritz given the go ahead without a storm water solution in place?" Who is going to pay? The questions could go on at length....<br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16815" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16814" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16813" dir="ltr"> ----- Forwarded Message -----<br> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16861" face="Arial" size="2"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16860"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16859" style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "David Hiles hilesd@mac.com [HECYES]" <HECYES@yahoogroups.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> hecyes@yahoogroups.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 16, 2015 9:10 AM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16863"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16862" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [HECYES] Digest Number 756<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16866"><br><div id="yiv3963243753"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16865">
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1426507130771_16864">Nina, thanks for sharing this.<br clear="none">
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The 9 ponds solution was promoted by University Park and Riverdale Park. It would use a developable parcel in Hyattsville near PG metro station to fix a problem that does not exist in Hyattsville. The 9ponds parcel should be built up to take environmentally correct advantage of mass transit. The 9ponds idea was promoted by one developer who proposed that his stormwater problem would be solved by using another developer’s property (the 9ponds site) as the receiver of his runoff. This was a sweet deal for him. It should be stopped.<br clear="none">
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Now we have the new Cafritz megadevelopment in Riverdale Park that could be thought of addind to the runoff problem. However, developers are required by modern stormwater regulations to manage the stormwater impact of their projects. This applies to new projects in Hyattsville and Riverdale Park, It will also apply to redevelopment projects in the future. As exisitng parcels in Hyattsville (such as PG Plaza and nearby parking lots) are eventually redeveloped, they will have to manage their stormwater impact better than is done by the current development. As redevelopment proceeds, stormwater impact of developed property in Hyattsville will actually decrease. <br clear="none">
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> 1. Fw: [RP TownTalk] Storm Water Management Presentation <br clear="none">
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> 1. Fw: [RP TownTalk] Storm Water Management Presentation<br clear="none">
> Posted by: "Nina Faye" ns_faye@yahoo.com ns_faye<br clear="none">
> Date: Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:25 am ((PDT))<br clear="none">
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> To: TownTalk <TownTalk@riverdale-park.org> <br clear="none">
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 3:14 PM<br clear="none">
> Subject: [RP TownTalk] Storm Water Management Presentation<br clear="none">
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> Friends and neighbors,<br clear="none">
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> I want to let you know that at the next Council Work Session on Monday<br clear="none">
> March 30 at 8 PM there will be a presentation about Storm Water<br clear="none">
> Management (SWM) along Wells Run relating to the Cafritz project and<br clear="none">
> how best to manage the system.<br clear="none">
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> The issue at stake is that one aspect of the SWM system Cafritz is<br clear="none">
> obliged to put in is a holding tank on the west side of the property;<br clear="none">
> however engineering studies show that piece of the system will have<br clear="none">
> negligible affect on either 10 or 100 year type floods. Therefore the<br clear="none">
> suggestion on the table is that a fee be paid instead by the<br clear="none">
> developer, based on clear county formula, to help fund what is hoped<br clear="none">
> to be a more effective project to hold water farther upstream commonly<br clear="none">
> referred to as the "9 Pond" proposal. The argument they are making is<br clear="none">
> that this will do much more to actually control flooding than the<br clear="none">
> "tank" that does next to nothing according to their study.<br clear="none">
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> The 9 Pond proposal has been in the works for years and at least on<br clear="none">
> its surface seems to be the only real place where sufficient land is<br clear="none">
> available that a real reduction of downstream flooding can be<br clear="none">
> realized. Not just its large size makes it appealing, but the fact<br clear="none">
> that the land is largely undevelopable also makes it a likely site.<br clear="none">
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> The presentation at the work session will come from the Prince<br clear="none">
> George's County Department of Public Works which is the agency that is<br clear="none">
> charged with SWM. Ultimately this agency is the arbiter of the issue,<br clear="none">
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> This is a critical time for SWM in Riverdale Park because the Wells<br clear="none">
> Run system is being surveyed, analyzed and (re)designed for repair and<br clear="none">
> reconstruction as well as new regulations are being implemented for<br clear="none">
> development/redevelopment projects as part of statewide SWM efforts.<br clear="none">
> Now is the time for us to get the best reconstruction plans and<br clear="none">
> precedents for development that we can get.<br clear="none">
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> I cannot say more at this point because we (Riverdale Park and other<br clear="none">
> stakeholders) are still evaluating the materials that the County has<br clear="none">
> provided. As stated above PGCDPW has the final say, but they represent<br clear="none">
> all of us on matters such as this and we intend to make sure that they<br clear="none">
> do not forget this. Please know that you are invited out for what is<br clear="none">
> likely to be a lively presentation and followup questions.<br clear="none">
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