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<div style="direction:ltr">I have some concerns and questions about this legislation. </div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">1. What is the genesis of this legislation? Is RP only considering because other municipalities have passed similar legislation? If so, what is the success rate in those towns? Did it increase civic engagement or voter turn out? Perhaps
we wait a bit to see if the other towns have met their goals, and if not, maybe the legislation should be edited accordingly before being passed in RP. </div>
<div style="direction:ltr">2. Assuming here... If the goal is to increase engagement and input into the town by all residents, there are existing ways that can already happen. All residents are welcome at committee meetings, council meetings, etc. We struggle
to get US citizen residents to participate! </div>
<div style="direction:ltr">3. What is the anticipated increase in workload for the record keeping required?</div>
<div style="direction:ltr">4. How will it be proven that a voter is not already registered elsewhere? </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 9, 2018 1:56:28 PM<br>
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<div>Did the voting requirements for each of the municipalities listed below consist of being 18 years of age and a resident for 30 days? Your post doesn't mean much if you don't list the related terms and conditions for non voters. </div>
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<div>Not sure what point you are trying to make. Just because these other municipalities are doing this doesn't make it right for us. <br>
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<div>Frankly, I think this is the only reason this legislation is being proposed. Not because it's needed or folks are asking for it. It's simply because Hyattsville, Mt Rainier, etc. have done it. I would prefer if my council woman proposed legislation
requested by her constituents, not legislation that has been adopted in other municipalities.</div>
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<div>BTW, Have you read the proposed "Voter Expansion" legislation? </div>
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Wikipedia article on the history of non-citizens voting in the U.S. Turns out it used to be much more commonplace. Interesting quote here from 1931 (the 20s were at least one peak of xenophobic and anti-immigrant beliefs): "<span> </span><span style="color:#222222; font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:400; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; background-color:#ffffff; float:none; display:inline">In
1931, political scientist Leon Aylsworth noted: "</span><span style="color:#222222; font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; background-color:#ffffff; float:none; display:inline"><b>For
the first time in over a hundred years, a national election was held in 1928 in which no alien in any state had the right to cast a vote for a candidate for any office – national, state, or local</b></span><span style="color:#222222; font-family:sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:400; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; background-color:#ffffff; float:none; display:inline">."</span><sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-17" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; color:#222222; font-family:sans-serif; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; word-spacing:0px; background-color:#ffffff"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-17" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[17]</a>"</sup></div>
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Municipalities in Maryland where non-citizens can currently vote in local elections:</p>
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<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Barnesville, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnesville,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Barnesville, Maryland</a><span> </span>(since
1918)<sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-58" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-58" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[58]</a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Chevy Chase Section Three, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Chase_Section_Three,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Chevy
Chase Section Three, Maryland</a><sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-59" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-59" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[59]</a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Garrett Park, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Park,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Garrett Park, Maryland</a><span> </span>(since
1999)<sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-60" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-60" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[60]</a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Glen Echo, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Echo,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Glen Echo, Maryland</a><sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-washingtonpost.com_61-0" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-washingtonpost.com-61" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[61]</a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Hyattsville, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyattsville,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Hyattsville, Maryland</a><span> </span>(since
December 2016)<sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-washingtonpost.com_61-1" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-washingtonpost.com-61" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[61]</a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Martin's Additions, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin%27s_Additions,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Martin's Additions,
Maryland</a><sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-62" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-62" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[62]</a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Mount Rainier, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Rainier,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Mount Rainier, Maryland</a><span> </span>(since
January 2017)<sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-63" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-63" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[63]</a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Somerset, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Somerset, Maryland</a><sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-64" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-64" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[64]</a></sup></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a title="Takoma Park, Maryland" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takoma_Park,_Maryland" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">Takoma Park, Maryland</a><span> </span>(since
1993)<sup id="aolmail_gmail-cite_ref-65" class="aolmail_gmail-reference" style="line-height:1; unicode-bidi:isolate; white-space:nowrap; font-size:11.2px; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-65" style="color:#0b0080; text-decoration:none; background:none">[65]</a></sup></li></ul>
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<div>From this I learned that the labor force participation rate for people 16 yrs and older (i.e, people who either are working or are seeking work) for</div>
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<div>Foreign-born people (25+ yrs) w/less than high school diploma 60%</div>
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<div>My only point being, the idea that immigrants are somehow shiftless and lazy is simply bullpucky.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Actually, it's quite the opposite. Benefits such as TANF, social security disability, etc. are not available to non-citizens. And they do pay taxes. The most recent estimate I could find for Maryland is that undocumented residents of Maryland
paid over $332 million per year in state and local taxes in Maryland (<a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://itep.org/immigration/">https://itep.org/immigration/</a><wbr>) They pay sales taxes, gasoline and other excise taxes, property
taxes (either directly as property owners or indirectly as renters). And if they do work with a false social security number then they pay payroll taxes (social security and medicare) for benefits they can never receive, and may de facto pay income taxes through
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<div>Every study I've seen has found that immigrants commit fewer crimes and are as likely (if not more likely) to be employed than those of us who were born here. A quick Google search found this news release from Bureau of Labor Statistics from about a year
ago, reporting that the unemployment rate among foreign-born residents was 4.3% while at the time the rate for native-born residents was 5.0%.</div>
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<div>I have not weighed in on the issue of whether or not to extend the right to vote in local elections to our noncitizen residents, but I found myself unable to let such false assertions as these go without a response.</div>
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<div class="aolmail_m_5924733042650806809m_2798959598417320819h5">On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:01 AM, McDougall, Sherene [US] (Law)
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<p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif; color:#1f497d">Bruce,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif; color:#1f497d">They don’t want to become citizens because that would mean getting a job and having to pay taxes. Why go through all that hassle to become a citizen
when they are receiving food, money, housing and education. Things that we taxpayers are paying for.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif">
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<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Bruce Wernek<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Friday, March 09, 2018 9:41 AM<br>
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<strong>Subject:</strong> EXT :[RP TownTalk] Proposed "Voter Expansion" legislation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:'Arial',sans-serif; color:black">The proposed "Voter Expansion" legislation appears to patently marginalize town residents and US citizens in general. If I understand it correctly, a non
citizen can break the law, illegally enter our country, and 6 weeks later be rewarded for doing so with the right vote our Town. Essentially, there are no requirements for voting privileges other than being 18 years of age or older and being a "resident"
of Riverdale Park for 30 days. I don't think the bar could be much lower. Given this proposed legislation, one has to wonder, what benefit is there in being a long time resident committed to the Town, a tax payer, and a US citizen? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:'Arial',sans-serif; color:black">I find it hard to believe this legislation wasn't patently rejected by our Mayor and Council much less drawn up in the first place. If non citizens want
the right to vote, they have to demonstrate their commitment to our Town and country by becoming naturalized citizens. My grandparents and father did. Why don't these people have to?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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