[RP TownTalk] (no subject)

Mon Oct 17 22:53:15 UTC 2005

My understanding is gleaned from hearsay, but I'd been of the impression 
that the state has a policy allowing beer and wine, but not spirits, to be 
sold in one branch of a given chain per region?  Not that I have any such 
helpful information as what might constitute a 'region' of the state, or 
even whether this notion has any factual basis at all.  Perhaps someone 
has more concrete data, or knows where to find something of the sort - 
something both edifying but easy to cut and paste to the list, maybe?

I for one am not inclined to agitate (much) for the cause, but would very 
much welcome and support a brick-and-mortar gourmet organic market of our 
very own.  My favorite is Whole Foods personally, but whatever!  More 
power to you guys!  A Trader Joe's would be great too.

I agree with Jared about classist posturing.  What's "high income," 
anyway?  Where's the line?  If we're going to form camps we should have 
some clear info to work with, neighbors!  ;)

Andy

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Laureys, Ken R. wrote:

> David -- Actually, beer & wine is sold in the Glenridge Giant (at 
> intersection of 410 & 450).  However, I believe they were grandfathered 
> in when the county modified it liquor laws (before I arrived here in 
> 1987).  Each county controls those decisions, and Montgomery County for 
> example, opted to use special "County Liquor Stores" for hard liquors.
>
> You can contact the 'Liquor Board, which is a state-county appointed 
> board(see following):
>
> Board of License Commissioners (Alcohol)
> 5012 Rhode Island Ave
> Hyattsville, MD  20781
>
> Ken Laureys
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> dear fellow citizens,
>
> for me, this is a quality of life issue.  i'd like to see our town
> gov't help improve this aspect of life in our area.  telling me to go
> elsewhere and stop whining misses the point. or maybe sends me and
> other high income citizens another message...
>
> in many places in the USA, you can routinely buy beer and wine at the
> grocery. in my experience this includes, charlottesville, charleston,
> alexandria, san diego, eugene, austin, etc.  all cool places in my
> view.
>
> buying a box of wine at the grocery store is more convenient than
> having to go to a liquor store. convenience is good.  i'm pretty busy
> and i've always found it irritating to have to go out of my way to buy
> my malt liquor.  irritation and malt liquor, not a good combination...
> anyway, why it is better for our quality of life to have lots of liquor
> stores?  do we have this strange arrangement because of effective
> special interest lobbying? "but dumms's corner and franklin's might
> lose some beer and wine sales."  so what?  they shouldn't get special
> protection in the law.  we would have more bread stores if there was a
> law against sellling bread at the grocery. in jurisdictions where beer
> and wine is universally available at grocery stores, you have fewer
> liquor stores.
>
> i would like someone to explain to me why profit-seeking groceries in
> our area don't routinely sell this staple product.  my guess is 1)
> delegate justin ross is not a dummy, and 2) that "existing law" makes
> it difficult for groceries in our fair county to sell beer/wine, maybe
> particularly if there is a liquor store already near by.  there may be
> something similar at work in montgomery county.    i don't care about
> the glenridge giant or the coop grocery in greenbelt.  i shop at the
> giants in riverdale plaza, in beltway plaza, on queen's chapel road,
> and across from pg plaza. none of these sell beer or wine. why is this
> a good situation and good public policy?  bad, outmoded laws can be
> fixed.
>
> i know people who have left our area because of poor shopping options.
> the trader joe's in the va suburbs do sell wine.  the maryland joe's
> don't.
>
>
> re trader joe's: wine is part of the dna of this company. see this
> excerpt from their web site.
>
> A SHORT HISTORY - AND FUTURE - OF TRADER JOE'S
> Trader Joe's actually began in 1958 as a chain of convenience stores
> called "Pronto Markets” in the Los Angeles area. In 1967, the founder,
> Joe Coulombe, the original Trader Joe, wanted to expand the stores'
> offerings and enhance their image. He doubled the floor space and
> offered hard-to-find, boutique domestic and imported wines and gourmet
> food items at outstanding prices. He decked out the stores with cedar
> plank walls and nautical décor and garbed the Captain (the store
> manager), the First Mate (the assistant manager) and the Crew Members
> in colorful Hawaiian shirts. "Trader Joe's" was born.
>
> WE are who we have been waiting for.
> http://riverdalepark.blogspot.com/
>
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