[RP TownTalk] TownTalk Digest, Vol 9, Issue 10
marc stauffer
marc.stauffer at verizon.net
Sat Apr 8 18:37:47 UTC 2006
we would definitely support a food coop, although we currently shop a
lot at GLUT.
personally, we both like GLUT better (products, people, atmosphere)
than the TPSS Coop that we used to use when we, also, lived in Takoma
and could walk to the coop.
if GLUT is interested in helping to open a satellite venue, maybe we
could have a riverdale park GLUT, maybe call it GLUTTONY.
one idea that comes to mind: currently the old credit union is vacant.
perhaps Pete S. would be willing to have a coop rent the space, and
then when other development happens at that site (if and when) the coop
could become a stakeholder and existing tenant for whatever retail
space that development creates. in my view, it would be in Pete and
Sons interest to rent the building, be seen as helping start additional
town business opportunities, and a new Coop partnered both with other
local COOP's and Dumm's corner shops it could be designed to augment
those businesses and not step on their toes.
a question: what is the buyer's group people are talking about?
best,
marc stauffer
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> 1. Food Co-op? (Rob Oppenheim)
> 2. Re: Food Co-op? (david lingua)
> 3. Re: Food Co-op? (Nancy)
> 4. Re: Food Co-op? (Eric)
> 5. Re: Sarah's Cyburbia link (Alice Ewen Walker)
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> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 19:17:57 -0400
> From: Rob Oppenheim <rob.oppenheim at comcast.net>
> Subject: [RP TownTalk] Food Co-op?
> To: TownTalk <towntalk at riverdale-park.org>
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> Nancy and Beth mentioned the idea of a food co-op for town center.
> Sounds terrific to me.
>
> Is there enough interest to pull this off?
> What do you think?
>
> -Rob
>
> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:40:30 -0500 (CDT), ng_md at verizon.net wrote:
> Rob,
> What do you think about trying to attract a food co-op to our little
> downtown? ?With collaboration and cooperation of the buyers' group and
> the farmers' market folks?
>
> Nancy
>
> =====================
> From: Beth Judy <bjudy at wafonline.org>
> Date: Thu Apr 06 09:13:02 CDT 2006
> To: 'Nancy' <ng_md at verizon.net>
> Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] Sarah's Cyburbia link
>
>
> Hi Nancy,
> I would definitely support a food coop ?given the popularity of our
> farmers market, bet a lot of other people would too.
> Beth Judy
> 4600 Sheridan
> ?
> From: ...Nancy
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 20069:35 PM
> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
> Subject: [RP TownTalk] Sarah'sCyburbia link
> ?
> ..,all those empty storefronts are now on my mind, wouldn't it be cool
> if we have a food co-op "downtown?" Sure would be nice to have a store
> within walking distance that carries real food. If Mt.Rainier can
> support it, why can't Riverdale Park?
> ?
> Nancy
> ?
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> From: david lingua <inkywaterbears at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Food Co-op?
> To: rob.oppenheim at comcast.net, TownTalk <towntalk at riverdale-park.org>
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> Sounds good. Now, is there a horse out there that'll
> take Jemal's bit?
>
> --- Rob Oppenheim <rob.oppenheim at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Nancy and Beth mentioned the idea of a food co-op
>> for town center.
>> Sounds terrific to me.
>>
>> Is there enough interest to pull this off?
>> What do you think?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:40:30 -0500 (CDT),
>> ng_md at verizon.net wrote:
>> Rob,
>> What do you think about trying to attract a food
>> co-op to our little downtown? ?With collaboration
>> and cooperation of the buyers' group and the
>> farmers' market folks?
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>> =====================
>> From: Beth Judy <bjudy at wafonline.org>
>> Date: Thu Apr 06 09:13:02 CDT 2006
>> To: 'Nancy' <ng_md at verizon.net>
>> Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] Sarah's Cyburbia link
>>
>>
>> Hi Nancy,
>> I would definitely support a food coop ?given the
>> popularity of our farmers market, bet a lot of other
>> people would too.
>> Beth Judy
>> 4600 Sheridan
>> ?
>> From: ...Nancy
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 20069:35 PM
>> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
>> Subject: [RP TownTalk] Sarah'sCyburbia link
>> ?
>> ..,all those empty storefronts are now on my mind,
>> wouldn't it be cool if we have a food co-op
>> "downtown?" Sure would be nice to have a store
>> within walking distance that carries real food. If
>> Mt.Rainier can support it, why can't Riverdale Park?
>> ?
>> Nancy
>> ?
>>
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> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:38:00 -0500
> From: "Nancy" <ng_md at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Food Co-op?
> To: "'TownTalk'" <towntalk at riverdale-park.org>
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> David's raising a very good point. Is there any reason to talk about
> attracting anything "downtown" under the current circumstances? Is
> Jemal
> likely to be cooperative?
>
> Without knowing any of the folks involved, I'll put this question out
> there:
> would it be possible for a food co-op to complement and even bolster
> the
> farmers' market? If, on the other hand, it would undermine or
> interfere with
> the farmers' market, I'm not interested. Personally, I'm also not
> interested
> in undermining the buyers' group or any of the other co-ops around
> here.
>
> Are any of the folks involved in the farmers' market or the buyers'
> group at
> all interested in this idea? Either on board with it or interested in
> making
> it happen?
>
> If not, I wonder if any of the nearby co-ops (Takoma Park - Silver
> Spring,
> Glut, or the one in College Park, whatever that is) would be
> interested in
> opening another location here?
>
> Probably the most important consideration - would it be viable? Are
> there
> enough people that would shop there? I can't remember the figures, but
> some
> ridiculous percentage of spending in grocery stores (well more than
> half) is
> among fewer than 100 items, even in great big grocery stores. A
> well-run
> small store that stocks the stuff that people want to buy, supported
> by a
> customer base that would embrace the aesthetic of getting their stuff
> at a
> small community store rather than the big, bright, shiny Giant,
> Safeway,
> Target, whatever, has a chance.
>
> FWIW, I used to live 4 blocks from the Takoma Park - Silver Spring
> co-op in
> E-W Highway, about a 15 minute drive from here. Even though they
> didn't sell
> meat (they do, now), I was able to walk up there (or stop on my way
> home)
> once or twice a week and get most of the stuff I need. Life was good
> when I
> only had to go to the big, bright, shiny supermarket once a month or
> so.
>
> But that?s me. What does anybody else out there think?
>
> Nancy
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TownTalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org
> [mailto:TownTalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of david lingua
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:51 PM
> To: rob.oppenheim at comcast.net; TownTalk
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Food Co-op?
>
> Sounds good. Now, is there a horse out there that'll take Jemal's bit?
>
> --- Rob Oppenheim <rob.oppenheim at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Nancy and Beth mentioned the idea of a food co-op for town center.
>> Sounds terrific to me.
>>
>> Is there enough interest to pull this off?
>> What do you think?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:40:30 -0500 (CDT), ng_md at verizon.net wrote:
>> Rob,
>> What do you think about trying to attract a food co-op to our little
>> downtown? ?With collaboration and cooperation of the buyers' group and
>> the farmers' market folks?
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>> =====================
>> From: Beth Judy <bjudy at wafonline.org>
>> Date: Thu Apr 06 09:13:02 CDT 2006
>> To: 'Nancy' <ng_md at verizon.net>
>> Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] Sarah's Cyburbia link
>>
>>
>> Hi Nancy,
>> I would definitely support a food coop ?given the popularity of our
>> farmers market, bet a lot of other people would too.
>> Beth Judy
>> 4600 Sheridan
>> ?
>> From: ...Nancy
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 20069:35 PM
>> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
>> Subject: [RP TownTalk] Sarah'sCyburbia link
>> ?
>> ..,all those empty storefronts are now on my mind, wouldn't it be cool
>> if we have a food co-op "downtown?" Sure would be nice to have a store
>> within walking distance that carries real food. If Mt.Rainier can
>> support it, why can't Riverdale Park?
>> ?
>> Nancy
>> ?
>>
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> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:44:02 -0400
> From: Eric <eric at ickyfoot.com>
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Food Co-op?
> To: rob.oppenheim at comcast.net
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> Good Morning,
>
> My name is Eric Fuller. My girlfriend, Erika (I know, I know ;), and I
> moved to Riverdale Park on April 29th of last year.
>
> I've been reading the discussions a bit over the last week, and this
> topic has prompted me to finally reply.
>
> We would both love it if there were a food co-op nearby. We lived in
> Takoma Park for awhile and loved the one over there.
>
> And speaking of, maybe the Takoma Park-Silver Spring co-op folks would
> be game for exanding our way?
>
> -Eric
>
> Rob Oppenheim wrote:
>
>> Nancy and Beth mentioned the idea of a food co-op for town center.
>> Sounds terrific to me.
>>
>> Is there enough interest to pull this off?
>> What do you think?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:40:30 -0500 (CDT), ng_md at verizon.net wrote:
>> Rob,
>> What do you think about trying to attract a food co-op to our little
>> downtown? With collaboration and cooperation of the buyers' group and
>> the farmers' market folks?
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>> =====================
>> From: Beth Judy <bjudy at wafonline.org>
>> Date: Thu Apr 06 09:13:02 CDT 2006
>> To: 'Nancy' <ng_md at verizon.net>
>> Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] Sarah's Cyburbia link
>>
>>
>> Hi Nancy,
>> I would definitely support a food coop -given the popularity of our
>> farmers market, bet a lot of other people would too.
>> Beth Judy
>> 4600 Sheridan
>>
>> From: ...Nancy
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 20069:35 PM
>> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
>> Subject: [RP TownTalk] Sarah'sCyburbia link
>>
>> ...,all those empty storefronts are now on my mind, wouldn't it be
>> cool if we have a food co-op "downtown?" Sure would be nice to have a
>> store within walking distance that carries real food. If Mt.Rainier
>> can support it, why can't Riverdale Park?
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:52:54 -0400
> From: "Alice Ewen Walker" <alice.ewen.walker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Sarah's Cyburbia link
> To: Nancy <ng_md at verizon.net>
> Cc: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
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> Thanks for sending the link. For those interrested, here are a couple
> of web links on urban planning that often have good visuals.
>
> http://www.planetizen.com
> http://www.cyburbia.org (again)
> http://www.smartgrowth.org/
> http://www.mncppc.org/cpd/riverdalepark.htm (MUTC guidelines for
> Riverdale Park)
>
> It seems like a lot of the feedback I've heard centers on execution.
> Good design and materials can make a large building attractive. Bad
> design can make it seem like a giant box.
>
> For the developer, being able to visually see what we mean when we say
> 'make it look good', can be helpful. I think the MUTC guidelines
> articulate what the town wants pretty well. Feel free to send along
> other images that exemplify what you mean.
>
> - Alice
>
> PS - A co-op would be cool. I don't know what it takes to make it
> work as a business, but Greenbelt Co-op, TPSS Co-op, Glut, and Mom's
> appear to be successful.
>
> On 4/5/06, Nancy <ng_md at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> An interest paralleling is that Forest Park is a "streetcar suburb" of
>> Chicago. I know we don't use that term in the DC area, and we don't
>> make
>> much of there being a transit station in the midst of our fair town
>> (or have
>> I missed that?). I love that they have retail on the ground floor. Not
>> seriously suggesting that here, of course, given the many empty
>> storefronts
>> just across the tracks.
>>
>> A propos of nothing, except that all those empty storefronts are now
>> on my
>> mind, wouldn't it be cool if we have a food co-op "downtown?" Sure
>> would be
>> nice to have a store within walking distance that carries real food.
>> If Mt.
>> Rainier can support it, why can't Riverdale Park?
>>
>> Nancy
>> From the Peanut Gallery
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: TownTalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org
>> [mailto:TownTalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of
>> Sarah Michailof
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 1:06 PM
>> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
>> Subject: [RP TownTalk] (no subject)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I occasionally visit an internet discussion forum called Cyburbia,
>> self-described as "the Internet's most active urban/town
>> planning-related
>> bulletin board". I found this discussion (follow link below) and
>> pictures
>> very interesting in context with our own discussions about the condo
>> proposal at the Spiropoulos (sp??) property:
>>
>> http://www.planetizen.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23925
>>
>> The link contains pictures of a 4-story infill condo/commercial
>> development
>> in Forest Park, IL. Actually, I think it is really 5 stories - the
>> first
>> story is really tall. Parking is in the rear and under the building
>> though
>> it doesn't appear to be underground. The neighborhood around the
>> condo
>> seems not unlike Riverdale - it's primarily residential, and of a
>> similar
>> age (you can see four-square houses in the background of a couple
>> pictures).
>>
>>
>> I thought this was interesting and helpful in imagining what a condo
>> development in in Riverdale might look like.
>>
>> Sarah Michailof
>> 6404 46th Avenue
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 10:59:16 -0400
> From: Eric <eric at ickyfoot.com>
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Food Co-op?
> To: Nancy <ng_md at verizon.net>
> Cc: 'TownTalk' <towntalk at riverdale-park.org>
> Message-ID: <4437CFC4.9090502 at ickyfoot.com>
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> "FWIW, I used to live 4 blocks from the Takoma Park - Silver Spring
> co-op in E-W Highway, about a 15 minute drive from here. Even though
> they didn't sell meat (they do, now), I was able to walk up there (or
> stop on my way home) once or twice a week and get most of the stuff I
> need."
>
> That's exactly why I'd love one in the downtown area here.
>
> You raise an interesting point in terms of this possibly competing with
> the farmer's market. My feeling is that farmer's market have an appeal
> all their own (shopping outdoors for locally grown and shipped foods)
> that a co-op can't really compete with. But it would be worth getting
> some feedback to make sure it wouldn't step on any toes. I'd hate to
> undermine the farmer's market.
>
> I do think we can again look to Takoma Park here, though: their co-op
> and farmer's market coexist without any problems that I'm aware of.
>
> -E
>
> Nancy wrote:
>
>> David's raising a very good point. Is there any reason to talk about
>> attracting anything "downtown" under the current circumstances? Is
>> Jemal
>> likely to be cooperative?
>>
>> Without knowing any of the folks involved, I'll put this question out
>> there:
>> would it be possible for a food co-op to complement and even bolster
>> the
>> farmers' market? If, on the other hand, it would undermine or
>> interfere with
>> the farmers' market, I'm not interested. Personally, I'm also not
>> interested
>> in undermining the buyers' group or any of the other co-ops around
>> here.
>>
>> Are any of the folks involved in the farmers' market or the buyers'
>> group at
>> all interested in this idea? Either on board with it or interested in
>> making
>> it happen?
>>
>> If not, I wonder if any of the nearby co-ops (Takoma Park - Silver
>> Spring,
>> Glut, or the one in College Park, whatever that is) would be
>> interested in
>> opening another location here?
>>
>> Probably the most important consideration - would it be viable? Are
>> there
>> enough people that would shop there? I can't remember the figures,
>> but some
>> ridiculous percentage of spending in grocery stores (well more than
>> half) is
>> among fewer than 100 items, even in great big grocery stores. A
>> well-run
>> small store that stocks the stuff that people want to buy, supported
>> by a
>> customer base that would embrace the aesthetic of getting their stuff
>> at a
>> small community store rather than the big, bright, shiny Giant,
>> Safeway,
>> Target, whatever, has a chance.
>>
>> FWIW, I used to live 4 blocks from the Takoma Park - Silver Spring
>> co-op in
>> E-W Highway, about a 15 minute drive from here. Even though they
>> didn't sell
>> meat (they do, now), I was able to walk up there (or stop on my way
>> home)
>> once or twice a week and get most of the stuff I need. Life was good
>> when I
>> only had to go to the big, bright, shiny supermarket once a month or
>> so.
>>
>> But that's me. What does anybody else out there think?
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TownTalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org
>> [mailto:TownTalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of david lingua
>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:51 PM
>> To: rob.oppenheim at comcast.net; TownTalk
>> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Food Co-op?
>>
>> Sounds good. Now, is there a horse out there that'll take Jemal's bit?
>>
>> --- Rob Oppenheim <rob.oppenheim at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Nancy and Beth mentioned the idea of a food co-op for town center.
>>> Sounds terrific to me.
>>>
>>> Is there enough interest to pull this off?
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 09:40:30 -0500 (CDT), ng_md at verizon.net wrote:
>>> Rob,
>>> What do you think about trying to attract a food co-op to our little
>>> downtown? With collaboration and cooperation of the buyers' group
>>> and
>>> the farmers' market folks?
>>>
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> From: Beth Judy <bjudy at wafonline.org>
>>> Date: Thu Apr 06 09:13:02 CDT 2006
>>> To: 'Nancy' <ng_md at verizon.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [RP TownTalk] Sarah's Cyburbia link
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Nancy,
>>> I would definitely support a food coop -given the popularity of our
>>> farmers market, bet a lot of other people would too.
>>> Beth Judy
>>> 4600 Sheridan
>>>
>>> From: ...Nancy
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 20069:35 PM
>>> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
>>> Subject: [RP TownTalk] Sarah'sCyburbia link
>>>
>>> ..,all those empty storefronts are now on my mind, wouldn't it be
>>> cool
>>> if we have a food co-op "downtown?" Sure would be nice to have a
>>> store
>>> within walking distance that carries real food. If Mt.Rainier can
>>> support it, why can't Riverdale Park?
>>>
>>> Nancy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> From: "Alice Ewen Walker" <alice.ewen.walker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Food Co-op?
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> I'm in both the buyers club and active in the farmer's market.
>
> My sense is that, at least for the buyers club, we've become less
> active as more local options have become available (and as some of us
> have gotten busier). Others could probably say more about the history
> of the club.
>
> I'd agree that Farmer's Markets have their own appeal. Not sure if a
> co-op would hurt or help the FM.
>
> As a side note, we DO need to constantly advertise and promote the
> farmer's market to maintain and increase its customer base. So if you
> love the market, please, please tell your friends and colleagues to
> come shop here and to sign up for the farmer's market mailing list.
> http://mail.clarimetry.com/mailman/listinfo/
> rpfarmersmarket_clarimetry.com
>
> Even if you don't love the farmer's market, but you wish there were
> some tenants in town center, consider the fact that the farmer's
> market is living proof that "if you build it they will come." All of
> us working to double the customer base (currently about 300 people a
> week at peak season) will help showcase the town's economic potential.
> FM shoppers are not theoretical customers, they are real ones who go
> out of their way (either physically or by planning their shopping for
> a confined time and date) to visit the town center. That's persuasive
> to a business owner considering renting a retail site.
>
> - Alice
>
>
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