[RP TownTalk] trash "cans"

Fri Aug 8 12:22:28 UTC 2008

Our trash can was left in the street too.  We found it getting ready to go
down into the creek (we're at 47th & Sheridan).  And we were not about to
climb down in the creek just to get the trash can.

Also, I thought Thursday was still "big trash" pick up day..we put a twin
size bed frame out (which we have done before on a Thursday) and they didn't
take it...Did I miss something about a change for big trash pick up?

Thanks,

Jen

47th Ave.

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From: towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org
[mailto:towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] On Behalf Of novella sargusingh
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 4:57 PM
To: lisagrob at verizon.net; Lou King
Cc: TownTalk
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] trash "cans"

Here is a new twist on our new trash cans with wheels.  Before leaving on a
field trip this morning, I placed my new trash can on the curb as I usually
do.  During the second storm that came through this afternoon I just happen
to notice that my Bates trash can which was not put back on the curb, had
taken off down Taylor Road!!  Having just returned from the field trip and
barely had time to unload and get the kids inside before the storm hit.  I
thought I was seeing things when the rush of the water carried the trash can
down the road with great speed.  As I was watching my trash can float away,
I notice my neighbors trash can was floating by as well (maybe they were in
a race)  <http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/pr01/emoticons/smile_omg.gif> .
Now I am not one to complain much, but I strongly believe that Bates should
be held accountable and put the darn trash cans back were they got them from
(THE CURB) instead of leaving them in the street.

I want you to know that I called my husband who came to the rescue of both
trash cans at his own peril before they crossed Oglethorpe Street or collide
with oncoming traffic which had slowed down to avoid the floating trash
cans.  Furthermore, he was stoking wet and pissed off that the trash cans
had been left in the street to begin with!!  Please, please let Bates know
about this situation especially on Taylor Road because it is a downward
slope from were I live.  Furthermore, I am certain that my husband's rescue
days are over!!   

 <http://www.4stepscreativelearning.com/> Thanks A Million!

           Novella 

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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 08:51:32 -0500
From: lisagrob at verizon.net
To: lking at knob.com
CC: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] trash "cans"

 You don't have to fill it :)  I find it be easier than my smaller cans
because it has wheels. 

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at  2:20 PM, Lou King wrote:

> Did I miss a memo????

(Those of of you that remember my rant about the SIZE of the recycle
container can move on to the next email.)

I don't think I missed a council meeting covering Bates taking over trash
collection for Riverdale Park - but when was it discussed that each single
family home would be required to move around an APARTMENT SIZED trash bin?

{NOTE this is not the "Cranky Old Coot" speaking but, me, his serious minded
keeper.}

If I were not the healthy, strapping, young male that I am, and say I was my
neighbor Mickie G.,  I would be unable to take out my trash! Not to say
Mickie is a helpless little old lady, (if she heard me say that I would
leave town for my own safety) but; For her to take out a bag of empty
protein supplement jars from the bodybuilding store, she has to, with one
hand, open the lid (that rises over my head), and use here other arm to jerk
and clear her trash almost shoulder high (over 1 meter) to get it in these
new cavernous roll-on dumpster.

{I'm sorry, it is just not possible to speak seriously about such a
ludicrous situation.}

Reading TownTalk I know that all my neighbors are concerned about the
environment and expanding landfills. As such they all take their reusable
(or recycled) bags to RP Farmer's Market and generate mostly compostable
trash and make other purchases with an eye on the produce-to-packaging
ratio. For example, myself, I have only half fulled the small yellow recycle
bin sense mid-May when I tried to leave town. It is mostly dog food cans and
is an old story. This is about trash.

In the winter I take my 30" tall trash can to the curb every-other week or
so (more often in warm weather for obvious, odious reasons). I have to start
using the green dumpster left at my house, the container will weigh more
that my weekly trash! Wheels or not, I will have to drag this thing across
my yard to E. Beale. This is easier than haling it up the drive to the front
of the house.

What I think will happen with the trash "dumpsters" is what I have observed
with the recycle bins-on-wheels. Several people in town don't/can't hide
their big recycle bins behind their steps, by their back door as they did
the smaller yellow recycle bins.  Drive through town. How many recycle bins
do you see sitting our front? Where before a home owner/renter would buy a
trash can sized for their needs, and that they could hale to the street.  We
are now concerned with what to do with these "people" sized containers and
obliged to uses over sized containers.

Personally, when I moved to town I planted a flowering, red berried cane by
my back step to hide what I needed for trash from E. Beale. No, the new
behemoths will not fit.

I just went out and checked, the trashcan I fill ever week/week-and-a-half
is a 30 gallon container. The recycle bin from the county is 64 gallons and
the new Bates container is bigger than that!

Now I "know" this is all for efficiency, etc. but have you notices that the
recycle truck workers don't have, or don't use, equipment to empty the
recycle bins? What I see is two guys flipping open my neighbor's container,
grabbing it and dumbing it in the back of the truck. There is a message
here. OSHA -  or the trash collector, requires TWO workers to hale around
the container to avoid injury. A single resident, on the other hand, is
expected to move the same container to the curb. Why? Because the resident
is not employed as a trash person and therefore not covered by OSHA.

In short what I see is a system designed for the convenience of the trash
collection entity - customers (taxpayers) be damned.

Louis King

PS If you want to hear this rant again come to the working session, 25 Aug.
I know it is a done deal. But I do wish to let the elected officials know
how their efforts to save money have reduced the quality of life (and the
view) in Riverdale Park and how that may effect my decisions next May. COC

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