[RP TownTalk] Wachovia and the Field of Rubble

Wed Jul 16 20:12:45 UTC 2008

Alice, thank you (and to everyone who has posted) for the history and
information.  Given this, could you please apprise us of the status of
the "MOU" with the developer, if any; the deadline imposed for
groundbreaking, if any, and the options that exist if the deadline is
not met? And would it be reasonable to ask of the developer, given the
almost daily reports of Wachovia's shaky financial situation, what the
status of the project is from their side?

(And then ask him if he owns a weed wacker?)

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Alice Ewen Walker <alice at ewenwalker.com> wrote:
> I think there is a mistaken assumption that the Town is "making it hard to
> build."  The Town - under multiple administrations - has not been a source
> of delay in this project and by having a zoning plan that delineates what
> the community considers desirable, we are offering a fast track option for
> developers who choose to meet the zoning standards.
> This particular project has had many twists and turns, but it has not been
> in any way due to the Town placing undue burden, or delay, or otherwise on
> this development. We waived the zoning standards, we extended deadlines on
> contracts, we provided land rights - it is pretty hard for me to see how the
> Town could have provided more. Over the last 8 years, the Town has
> repeatedly "given to get" in this situation.
> The builder has encountered challenges to the project at different times -
> Eckerd Corp went out of business, he had to find a new tenant, there are
> some sewer and water challenges on the site, negotiating with a church
> congregation is hard, and lots of others things --- none of which have
> anything to do with the Town slowing down or speeding up the development
> process.
> - Alice
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Heather Blanchard
> <heather.blanchard at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Appreciate all the kind words. I agree with both of you as well, why would
>> businesses want to develop in Riverdale Park when we make it extremely
>> difficult to build? But I would put forth that we make it difficult because
>> we don't know what we want, or, maybe, the better thought here is that we
>> aren't attracting the right development to our town.
>> I can't help but think that the end goal would be to restore the Rte. 1
>> corridor into a walkable community, similar to the approach Hyattsville's
>> downtown. There would be mixed use, incorporation of community needs and
>> consistent aesthetics. I don't think a drive through bank really is a place
>> where I want to walk a dog, ect.
>> I agree we have to give to get. I guess my point is that in the "getting"
>> we should be a little bit more specific. I bet if the development was a
>> small Trader Joes, set back from the street with a commitment to work within
>> the historical aesthetics, I don't think the town would that developer such
>> a hard time.
>> If you like Riverdale Park to be drive thru banks, McDonalds and other
>> "pad site" development in the middle of a historic district, then the
>> current direction is appropriate.
>> But if you want something like what is happening down the street in
>> Hyattsville - like a new bike store, a planned Bus Boys and Poets, and a
>> Franklins type of restaurant, then maybe you might reconsider how we are
>> accepting whatever comes along.
>> We need businesses. We just need to think about how allowing this type of
>> development will change the character of the community.
>> Heather
>> On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:39 AM, bruce.wernek at mindspring.com wrote:
>>
>> I would also like to add that the litany of requirements imposed upon
>> Caputo by the Town/tenant has to be translated into building permits, right
>> of ways (sewer), road improvements at the Rt 1 intersection, architectural
>> drawings, tenant leases, tenant rights of refusals, build to suit tenant,
>> build to suit Town, construction contracts, endless legal fees, new churches
>> being built (to replace the one thats adjacent to the property, building
>> maintenance on the existing church (to be demolished), appeasement of town
>> residents, etc, etc, etc.
>>
>> Imagine owning a property which you want to develop but you can't because
>> of the previous reasons.  At the same time it's eating a hole in your pocket
>> not to mention all of the complaints from Town residents.  If you want
>> something to happen stop complaining and give the guy a hand or we will have
>> another "Jey's Auto" on our hands for the reasons that Dwight articulated.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Cranky old Coot <lking at knob.com>
>>
>> Sent: Jul 16, 2008 6:36 AM
>>
>> To: TownTalk <towntalk at riverdale-park.org>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Wachovia and the Field of Rubble
>>
>> As Alan said the history of the agreement for what would be done with
>>
>> this peace of _private_ property at Rt 1/410 is long and filled with
>>
>> emotion. Players have come and gone some have changed from one official
>>
>> position to an other.
>>
>> ... why can't we -- as a community -- tell him what we want to see
>>
>> there?
>>
>> And we wonder why development has been so slow to come to Riverdale
>>
>> Park?  If this were your house (not your neighbor's house) would you
>>
>> feel the same? First, 'we as a community', want to discuss whether your
>>
>> house will be historically correct; anything from provincial to Federal
>>
>> to Victorian (before the mansion to after) - what you can afford is not
>>
>> part of this discussion. Even after you decide on a design that is
>>
>> historically correct let's discuss it.
>>
>> Now that "we" have approved what "your" house will be, let us discuss
>>
>> historically correct lead-base paint. Now the color. Now when that is
>>
>> decided, lets go back and require "your" house be multi-family - "we"
>>
>> don't care how reclusive you are. Oh and by the way "we" think your
>>
>> front door should be on the other side.
>>
>> "We" also have views on your landscaping, where your driveway should be,
>>
>> the number of parking spaces.
>>
>> Do you still want to build "your" house in Riverdale? Or will you find
>>
>> it easer to build somewhere else? I'm really sorry if you already own
>>
>> the property in town. Now that Riverdale has tipped its hand it will be
>>
>> hard to find someone else to sell  the property to or build on it.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> I'm sure I have overlooked something (Ok the lead paint may be a
>>
>> stretch) but all these topics were part of the council's discussion. In
>>
>> many cases a topic was addressed by both M-C-TC and then again by the
>>
>> council. Time at council meetings was spent discussing where the
>>
>> planters should be and what should be in them; Council members spent
>>
>> time counting parking spaces and the pros and cons of where the front
>>
>> door should be.
>>
>> The council (I think, maybe it was M-U-TC) required the bank building be
>>
>> a multi use building. How many thriller books/movies do you know of
>>
>> where the basic story line involved tunneling from an office/building
>>
>> into the neighboring bank? Just lately I have seen a NCIS and Sherlock
>>
>> Holmes episodes with this plot element. Logic not withstanding Riverdale
>>
>> may have the only suburban bank with a building tent.
>>
>> Why are we letting developers just offer up development that isn't
>>
>> right for the area? ESPECIALLY, since that piece of property is one of
>>
>> the most valuable and visible that this town has.
>>
>> I question the view that the development 'isn't right for the area.'
>>
>> Established businesses don't survive, spending money expanding into an
>>
>> area that 'isn't right'. Their criteria may be different than your, but
>>
>> I will bet before they spend millions of dollars they have spend lots of
>>
>> time, and money, making sure the location is right.
>>
>> If there is any redress on this development, it would be great to
>>
>> know. Maybe we need to rethink how a development like this can get
>>
>> through the council with a, "well...okay..."
>>
>> A review of the council meetings would indicate that is not what
>>
>> happened. But then if more people attended council working and
>>
>> legislative sessions maybe ...
>>
>> Just think about Hyattsville - they stuck to their guns and are
>>
>> experiencing PLANNED, gradual, steady and hopefully sustainable
>>
>> development. There might be lesson's learned from our sister
>>
>> communities as we go down the road of development.
>>
>> There may also be a lesson in that the development STOPS at the
>>
>> Riverdale Park line. You can tell where Riverdale starts. Just look for
>>
>> the defunk gas station.
>>
>> The good news is there is an established process, developed with lots of
>>
>> public input, for controlling the growth of Riverdale Park.
>>
>> The bad news is there is an established process...    I am a newcomer to
>>
>> Riverdale (~1995) and have seen more businesses leave/close than open.
>>
>> There is Rt 1/410 - Right we now have McDs. How about town center? Ask
>>
>> the Dunn's.  On the up side there is the Farmer's Market however.
>>
>> COC
>>
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