[RP TownTalk] taxes
McDougall, Sherene (Law)
Sherene.McDougall at ngc.com
Thu Jul 23 20:37:48 UTC 2009
I checked my taxes and am curious as to how the assessed values for land
and improvements increased each year even though I didn't do any
improvements to the property until 2008. Any inputs? Thanks.
Sherene
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Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] taxes
Hi Marc, I might have some insight. Years ago properties were not
assessed at fair market value, that's why the assessment was different
than what a property sold for. It was a percentage. Then the county
decided to assess with fair market value criteria. That's why you see a
difference in the older years compared to now as far as assessments go.
I still don't know what the solid waste is. (We are paying town tax for
our waste products and it is supposed to be included in the town tax.)
Now you don't have to go to Montgomery County to compare solid waste
service charge. Just compare an area outside of Riverdale Park that is
not incorporated. (Riverdale Heights)
The county picks up their trash and it is a fee on their tax bill.
Usually about 300+ dollars.
However if you look at properties in Riverdale Heights and compare their
assessments and taxes with ours, what a difference:
I did a few:
Assessment $355,510 Taxes $2026
Assessment $298,000 Taxes $2891
Assessment $337000 Taxes $3228
Assessment $380000 Taxes $3519
We pay higher taxes for living in our charming incorporated town.
Somewhere in there is a credit for trash pickup since the town does it
and it is part of the town taxes that we pay. The other areas
(Riverdale Heights, Riverdale Hills, etc.) do not pay the town tax.
Being in Real Estate it is getting harder and harder to convince people
to live in our county since they get lower taxes in DC and Montgomery
County. Soon as they see the taxes they ask why so high. For some
reason I can't come up with a good answer and saying "Oh the services
are so much better" just doesn't ring true for me.
Audrey
In a message dated 7/23/2009 3:40:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mmolino54 at hotmail.com writes:
Our solid waste service charge was $90 for the two years before
we moved in, dropped to $70 for the next 6 years, and is (like yours),
now at $78.
I checked some other counties for their solid waste service
charge:
Montgomery county: $210
Howard County: $225 (although I'm not sure this was the same
service as it was listed separately as "trash pickup")
-Marc
> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:35:25 -0400
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] taxes
> From: dwightrholmes at gmail.com
> To: mmolino54 at hotmail.com
> CC: towntalk at riverdale-park.org
>
> thanks for the link, Marc. I can see that, at least in our
case, while
> our bill has gone up substantially every year, the increase
almost
> nothing to do with the Solid Waste Service Charge. That charge
has
> been on there every year and has increased from $71 to $78 in
the 3
> years we've been in the house.
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Marc
Molino<mmolino54 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > If you need/want to compare your (or even your neighbor's)
current
> > assessment, taxes, and solid waste service charge with
amounts in past
> > years, you can access this info pretty easily here:
> >
http://tax-acct-info.princegeorgescountymd.gov/PropertyTaxes/
> >
> > We've been in RP for 8 years now and for the first 6 years,
our property
> > assessment seemed underestimated by anywhere from $20-$100K
given the market
> > value of comparable homes in our neighborhood. This year it
seems about
> > $10-$30K overestimated given sales of comparable homes (not
including short
> > sales and foreclosures). Honestly, I don't know how I feel
about it--should
> > I have been paying more for those first 6 years? Does it all
wash out in the
> > end? Does the Homestead Tax Credit provide a buffer that
makes my taxes
> > actually relate to the real value of my home?
> >
> > >From 2004 to 2007, our total tax bill increased by $100.
> > >From 2007 to 2010, our total tax bill increased by $960.
> > So, we went from about a bump of $30 every year to about
$300 more
> > every year. Seems steep.
> >
> > -Marc
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:08:03 -0400
> >> From: dwightrholmes at gmail.com
> >> To: bruce.wernek at mindspring.com
> >> CC: ABragg7393 at aol.com; towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> >> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] taxes
> >>
> >> Bruce - that link is for the non-residential version called
'system
> >> benefit charge'.
> >>
> >> "What is the SBC?
> >>
> >> The SBC is a fee paid by all non-residential property
owners in Prince
> >> George's County that will help provide funding for building
and
> >> maintaining waste disposal systems. The SBC is a service
charge and
> >> not a tax, and therefore also applies to establishments
located on
> >> tax-exempt land."
> >>
> >> I assume the comparable information for the residential
version is on
> >> the web there somewhere but i didn't see it in a very quick
> >> look-see...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:00 PM,
<bruce.wernek at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >> > Audrey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I've already called the county and got the skinny. You
can get more
> >> > info in
> >> > the following link
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "www.pgc-systembenefit.com"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > under "sbc". I talked to Mr Wright at (301) 952-7609 who
works in the
> >> > environmental division of PG county and he told me this
charge pays for
> >> > things like "digging the hole" at the dump (I wonder what
the money
> >> > collected from the citizens, businesses, and trash trucks
for disposal
> >> > at
> >> > the dump is used for). I asked Mr Wright why I was never
billed for
> >> > this in
> >> > the past and he said I probably just fell through the
cracks.
> >> > Apparently,
> >> > there are quite a few people who "fell through the
crack".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This "Solid Waste Service Charge" has no business being
on my tax bill
> >> > since
> >> > it is not a tax. I'm very concerned about this since the
county could
> >> > put
> >> > any amount on my tax bill and label is a "you name it
service charge"
> >> > essentially increasing my property taxes without any
restrictions. If I
> >> > recall PG county tried to raise property taxes, but their
request was
> >> > denied
> >> > by the state. It's interesting to note the timing of
this new "Solid
> >> > Waste
> >> > Service Charge". I intend to go through whatever process
to refute this
> >> > charge with the county. I intend on calling the Treasury
this afternoon
> >> > to
> >> > get more information.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I encourage all of our readers to do the same. From
where I stand, this
> >> > is
> >> > charge is carte blanche for PG county to increase
property tax without
> >> > having to answer to the state.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bruce
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: ABragg7393 at aol.com
> >> > Sent: Jul 23, 2009 8:38 AM
> >> > To: towntalk at riverdale-park.org
> >> > Subject: [RP TownTalk] taxes
> >> >
> >> > The property tax bills just came out. I heard there was
some buzz on
> >> > the
> >> > Hyattsville list serve, but don't see anything here on
our list serve.
> >> > Is
> >> > everyone happy with their bills and assessments? I have
a question and
> >> > calls to the treasury office don't produce an answer. We
seem to have a
> >> > new
> >> > charge on our taxes for "Solid Waste Disposal". does
anyone know what
> >> > that
> >> > is? I think my taxes are outrageous. Does anyone else
have a problem?
> >> >
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