[RP TownTalk] 410 pedestrian crosswalk, median near Beale Circle

Tue Jan 29 12:50:31 UTC 2013

Lora, thanks for confirming the turn is illegal and enforced! Glad you only
received a warning.
Best,
Fred

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Planetlorak <planetlorak at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Fred, to answer your question directly:  Late summer 2012, after 10:30pm
> one
> evening, with literally no cars in front of me on either side of the road,
> I
> took the left onto Beale.  I was immediately pulled over by flashing lights
> and whoops from a police car. (I obviously did not notice the police car
> BEHIND me.) Through the blinding lights, I saw TWO more cars join the
> party.
> I think it was County Police, but I was a little too overwhelmed to use my
> best situational awareness skills.  The Officer who approached my vehicle
> asked me if knew what I had done wrong.  I honestly didn't, I wasn't
> speeding, I signaled....???  He told me it was turning left.  I sat there
> while my name and the results of my license/registration check were
> broadcast to my Beale Street neighbors over his car's radio.  He did not
> cite me, but warned me to never do that again.   At a minimum, a sign
> (Emergency Vehicles Only) would have kept me law abiding from the very day
> that lowered curb on 410 was constructed.
>
>
> Now another topic:  This may have already been discussed in this forum, but
> what's up with the Bowling Alley? It seemed like a popular place, yet it
> has
> never reopened since the Earthquake.
>
> Lora Katz
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> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:52:00 -0500
> From: Fred Holcomb <fred.j.holcomb at gmail.com>
> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
> Subject: [RP TownTalk] 410 pedestrian crosswalk, median near Beale
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> Since we're discussing road issues around town, I thought I throw in a few
> of my own.
>
> Is the crosswalk across 410 east of Kenilworth Ave. under Riverdale Park
> jurisdiction?  (Sorry if that's a dumb question -- I'm fairly new around
> here.) If so, I'm wondering if there's ever been any enforcement there. God
> forbid anyone try to actually use it. Traffic on 410 will absolutely not
> stop for pedestrians there.  I once slowed to allow a pedestrian to cross
> and was almost rear-ended immediately.  The cars in the other lanes didn't
> slow at all.  To avoid causing an accident, I sheepishly continued through
> the crosswalk.  The pedestrian smartly remained safely waiting on the
> median.
>
> Also, there is a cut in the median in 410 near Beale Circle.  Does anyone
> know the purpose of this?  I see many folks using it to turn left onto
> Beale Circle from the westbound lanes of 410.  For a while in the recent
> past, there were cones on the median blocking these left turns, but those
> have since disappeared.  At the end of the day, are these left turns legal?
>
> Best,
> Fred
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 10:58:59 -0500
> From: Dwight Holmes <dwightrholmes at gmail.com>
> To: Fred Holcomb <fred.j.holcomb at gmail.com>
> Cc: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] 410 pedestrian crosswalk, median near Beale
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> Fred, others can speak with actual authority but I will share what I have
> learned about the Beale Circle/410 situation.  Apparently the cut in the
> median was made for emergency vehicles.  As you say, though, others are
> making use of it which is extremely dangerous.  I wrote the State Highway
> Admin about it and got a prompt reply that they will check it out. That's
> been a couple of weeks now.  I believe that our town officials have also
> asked for a fix to the problem as well.
>
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:22:58 -0500
> From: Vernon Archer <varcher at gmail.com>
> To: Dwight Holmes <dwightrholmes at gmail.com>
> Cc: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] 410 pedestrian crosswalk, median near Beale
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> Fred,
>
> You put your finger right on a nightmare crosswalk at 58th and SH 410 that
> is, just barely, within town boundaries. This last December one of my
> students was in fact hit by an automobile while she was walking home.
> Miraculously she not only survived but is back in school, and almost back
> to normal.
>
> I've tried to use this near tragedy to galvanize State Highway to study
> this entire intersection and take more control of this problem area.  I
> believe that the intersection needs a traffic light, but State ultimately
> will decide.  We are in the mean time trying to step up police presence in
> the area and are looking at several other short term alternatives to reduce
> the threat of injury or death there.
>
> Regarding the median cut just west of the bridge on 410, Dwight's
> assessment is right on target--let me emphasize we are also in conversation
> with State Highway about real concerns that this has the potential to lead
> to tragedy.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Vern
>
>
> --
> Vernon Archer, Mayor
> Town of Riverdale Park, Maryland
>
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:08:19 -0500
> From: Lou King <lking at knob.com>
> To: TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] 410 pedestrian crosswalk, median near Beale
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> People feeling the need to use the median cut from west bound 410 onto
> East Beale (then Queensbury to Rt 1 south), is just another result of
> the failed intersection of 410/Rt 1. Those consequences has been
> discussed here time and time again, even last week. Town officials from
> the Mayor on down, have been working with State and County looking for
> any solution/relief for years.
>
> It always seems to boil down to state money and priorities.
>
> As an aside, those that feel smaller/cheaper Government is better should
> keep these and other issues in mind as we approach the budget season
> nationally and locally.
>
> Lou
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