[RP TownTalk] Request for council consideration concerning conduct of meetings.

Vernon Archer varcher at gmail.com
Wed May 11 12:47:42 UTC 2016


Bob,

I look forward to discussing both your suggestions and concerns at the next work session. All are welcome and encouraged to both attend and share your thoughts at the meeting. May 31, meeting begins at 8.

Vern

Sent from my iPad

> On May 11, 2016, at 7:58 AM, bob smith <sfmc68 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I sent this message to the Mayor and Council for
> consideration. I have been advised it did end up in spam.
> 
> I am hoping it does not end up there in other's email boxes.
> 
> I hope you can take the time to consider this. I am not adding the cheat
> sheet for Robert's Rules of Order, but if you would like it I can send
> it separately.
> 
> Bob Smith
> 5001 Riverdale Road
> 
> 
> 
> Mr Mayor, Town Council, Town Administrator,
> 
> I do not have town email addresses for council people from ward 4 or
> ward 6, I would appreciate it if someone could pass this on for their
> consideration.
> 
> I would be pleased to discuss formally at the next work session, the
> next legislative meeting. I have included simple agenda item
> representation.
> 
> I have commented verbally and in notes about my concern regarding
> town meetings and the manner in which public comment can be provided
> concerning issues, motions, and actions before the council.
> 
> I have provided a set of suggestions to the Mayor for consideration and
> asked for him to take time to digest and consider. We seem to be close
> to understanding exactly what I am trying to convey. I am smoothing the
> language out a little and attaching the cheat sheet for the oft cited
> Roberts Rules of Order to aid in your consideration.
> 
> The Mayor and some council members have stated (to individuals privately
> and in session publicly) that Roberts Rules of Order are used for the
> conduct of meetings. This procedure precludes an ad hoc question from
> the audience if proper decorum and behavior is expected.
> 
> The chair as leader of the board is responsible for inviting comment,
> managing it, or shutting it out. Roberts Rules and annotations generally
> cite "the assembly". I have not used that term in this discussion as the
> Mayor and Council have referred to the attendees at public meetings as
> honorary members of the council and emphasizing that the council members
> and the attendees are thus the assembly.
> 
> I am of the opinion that the council may have slipped into at
> least the appearance of blocking public comment by voting on agenda
> items before public comment. While this may be unintended, the
> appearance is clear and concerning.
> 
> I suggest, and thus propose, the following as a possible solution.
> Obviously this is an approach I would prefer:
> 
> 1. The meeting process should be documented for all to understand.
> The meeting process should include a specific sequence for an agenda
> item discussion. For each agenda action item (council resolution)
> The process should include:
>    a. introduction of the agenda item,
>    b. Council discussion of the item,
>    c. Solicitation of Public comment on the specific item under
> discussion. Limits on speaking time may need to be considered;
>    d. at the conclusion of discussion, council concluding remarks,
> incorporation of changes, formally read into the record,
>    e. council vote on the issue or motion.
> 
> =================
> As an example Agenda item under Legislative Action Items -
> 
> Legislative Action Items:
> 
> 1. Motion to adopt Charter Amendment Resolution 2016-CR-01 regarding
> Council-Manager form of Government
> 
> a. Introduction of the agenda item Councilman Thompson with motion to
> consider the item.
> 
> b. After motion has been seconded, council discussion and comment. Any
> changes to the item would be considered at this time and noted.
> 
> c. After council discussion, the chair opens the floor and formally
> solicits comments from attendees, the honorary council members. Comments
> and concerns are addressed by the council and noted.
> 
> d. with the closure of discussion any changes, modifications, are
> formally read into the record prior to the council vote.
> 
> e. The council votes on the issue (as changed or amended after
> discussion) and concludes the action.
> 
> This process is repeated for each and every legislative action item.
> ====================
> 
> 2. The published agenda should reflect this process of action and
> solicitation of public discussion.
> 
> 3. The process should be formally documented in town records. Of course,
> executive sessions would necessitate a similar agenda approach but with
> out general public section or larger assembly as  described in Roberts
> Rules of order discussions.
> 
> 4. Consent items should include a similar process that ensures public
> comment on any item that could impact a neighbor or neighboring ward.
> I think generally, impact to neighbors with in a ward is covered but I
> am not certain of that. I don't believe I have seen much discussion of
> overall impact to neighboring wards or the entire town on most consent
> items.  However, since not every resident has the time or the
> inclination to attend work sessions, I think this standardized approach
> would go along way to ensuring the public has a KNOWN place to comment
> on issues of concern.
> 
> Consent items COULD be handled in a manner similar to that described in
> 1.a-e above. Alternatively, introduction of consent items could follow
> an abbreviated set of steps 1.a-e IF the attendees (council and public)
> are solicited for comment on a consent agenda item before that consent
> section rolls on.
> 
> This would go along way to assuaging my concerns and issues with the
> process at this time.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Bob Smith
> 5001 Riverdale Road
> Ward 3
> 
> 
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