[RP TownTalk] Voter Expansion Legislation Questions?

[Catarina Correia]

Bruce,

i believe you read Mr Salgadoe's email incorrectly - he was saying that our
country is becoming hateful towards immigrants and from what I see on the
news  - with families being torn apart/ICE raids etc - I absolutely agree.

My grandparents on my mom's side were immigrants (from the Azores) and so
was my dad for a while until we moved back to Portugal.  I assume you know
as I do that back when our grandparents were immigrating here the rules
were different. To compare immigrants from 100 years ago to those
immigrating now is kind of apples and oranges.  To be more precise, our
grandparents would have a very difficult time getting naturalized now -
regardless of how hard they worked.   Generally, permission to enter and
stay in the country as a documented immigrant is limited to people who are
highly trained in a skill that is in short supply here and have been
offered a job by a U.S. employer, are escaping political persecution, are
joining close family already here or are winners of the green-card
lottery.  My grandparents were dirt poor and you say yours had nothing - so
it is likely none would get naturalized nowadays - and because they were
poor would probably be labeled by some as deadbeat welfare suckers that
offer nothing to our country.

Immigrants now are working hard, they just don't have the benefit of a
system that was letting just about anyone in and giving them documents.
Many are here legally and with green cards. They pay taxes.  In fact, they
contribute more in taxes than they receive in government benefits. To
insinuate that immigrants now are somehow lazy or inferior to immigrants
"back in the day" is flat out wrong.


Catarina
44th ave.


On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Bruce Wernek <bruce.wernek at verizon.net>
wrote:

> Hateful towards people like our ancestors!!!!!!!!!!  Who are you to define
> what is hateful???????.  With all due respect, please keep your "hateful"
> dialogue to yourself.
>
> My grandparents and father immigrated from Poland.  They had nothing when
> they arrived in this country.  There was no welfare, social services, SNAP,
> etc. at that time.  The US or it's citizens were not "hateful" toward them
> because they didn't get to vote, they didn't get welfare, they didn't get
> food stamps.  They worked hard, became naturalized citizens, and were
> successful as a result of their own efforts and sacrifice.  That's the
> meaning of pride and dignity from where I stand Andrew Salgadoe and there's
> nothing "hateful" about it.
>
> I am grateful to this country and it's people for all that I have.  How
> about you?
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Salgadoe <asalgadoe at yahoo.com>
> To: bruce.wernek <bruce.wernek at verizon.net>; TownTalk <
> TownTalk at riverdale-park.org>
> Sent: Tue, Apr 10, 2018 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Voter Expansion Legislation Questions?
>
>
> I'm all for bringing undocumented immigrants into the system by letting
> them vote, apply for driver licenses, getting insurance, having access to
> public education, etc etc.
>
> This will lead to less crime, more inclusivity, people coming out of the
> shadows, paying more taxes, and becoming proud Riverdale Park residents.
>
> We need to change the trend in our country, a country of immigrants,
> becoming hateful towards people just like our ancestors, parents, and
> grandparents who were just trying to find a better life for their families.
>
> Sanctuary city? Sign us up!
>
> Andrew
> Ravenswood Rd.
>
>
>
>
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> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 7:32, Bruce Wernek
> <bruce.wernek at verizon.net> wrote:
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