[RP TownTalk] Voter Expansion Legislation Questions?

Tue Apr 10 20:30:58 UTC 2018

Bruce,

I didn't make any comment on the legislation, just responded to your email
comparing immigrants from 100 years ago to immigrants now and pointing out
that it is not a valid comparison.

Cheers,
Catarina

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Bruce Wernek <bruce.wernek at verizon.net>
wrote:

> Catarina
>
> Did you read the voter expansion legislation?  Before you make comments on
> it, I suggest you read it.
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Catarina Correia <chatareena at gmail.com>
> To: Bruce Wernek <bruce.wernek at verizon.net>
> Cc: asalgadoe <asalgadoe at yahoo.com>; TownTalk <TownTalk at riverdale-park.org
> >
> Sent: Tue, Apr 10, 2018 3:27 pm
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Voter Expansion Legislation Questions?
>
> Bruce,
>
> i believe you read Mr Salgadoe's email incorrectly - he was saying that
> our country is becoming hateful towards immigrants and from what I see on
> the news  - with families being torn apart/ICE raids etc - I absolutely
> agree.
>
> My grandparents on my mom's side were immigrants (from the Azores) and so
> was my dad for a while until we moved back to Portugal.  I assume you know
> as I do that back when our grandparents were immigrating here the rules
> were different. To compare immigrants from 100 years ago to those
> immigrating now is kind of apples and oranges.  To be more precise, our
> grandparents would have a very difficult time getting naturalized now -
> regardless of how hard they worked.   Generally, permission to enter and
> stay in the country as a documented immigrant is limited to people who are
> highly trained in a skill that is in short supply here and have been
> offered a job by a U.S. employer, are escaping political persecution, are
> joining close family already here or are winners of the green-card
> lottery.  My grandparents were dirt poor and you say yours had nothing - so
> it is likely none would get naturalized nowadays - and because they were
> poor would probably be labeled by some as deadbeat welfare suckers that
> offer nothing to our country.
>
> Immigrants now are working hard, they just don't have the benefit of a
> system that was letting just about anyone in and giving them documents.
> Many are here legally and with green cards. They pay taxes.  In fact, they
> contribute more in taxes than they receive in government benefits. To
> insinuate that immigrants now are somehow lazy or inferior to immigrants
> "back in the day" is flat out wrong.
>
>
> Catarina
> 44th ave.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Bruce Wernek <bruce.wernek at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hateful towards people like our ancestors!!!!!!!!!!  Who are you to define
> what is hateful???????.  With all due respect, please keep your "hateful"
> dialogue to yourself.
>
> My grandparents and father immigrated from Poland.  They had nothing when
> they arrived in this country.  There was no welfare, social services, SNAP,
> etc. at that time.  The US or it's citizens were not "hateful" toward them
> because they didn't get to vote, they didn't get welfare, they didn't get
> food stamps.  They worked hard, became naturalized citizens, and were
> successful as a result of their own efforts and sacrifice.  That's the
> meaning of pride and dignity from where I stand Andrew Salgadoe and there's
> nothing "hateful" about it.
>
> I am grateful to this country and it's people for all that I have.  How
> about you?
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Salgadoe <asalgadoe at yahoo.com>
> To: bruce.wernek <bruce.wernek at verizon.net>; TownTalk <
> TownTalk at riverdale-park.org>
> Sent: Tue, Apr 10, 2018 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: [RP TownTalk] Voter Expansion Legislation Questions?
>
>
> I'm all for bringing undocumented immigrants into the system by letting
> them vote, apply for driver licenses, getting insurance, having access to
> public education, etc etc.
>
> This will lead to less crime, more inclusivity, people coming out of the
> shadows, paying more taxes, and becoming proud Riverdale Park residents.
>
> We need to change the trend in our country, a country of immigrants,
> becoming hateful towards people just like our ancestors, parents, and
> grandparents who were just trying to find a better life for their families.
>
> Sanctuary city? Sign us up!
>
> Andrew
> Ravenswood Rd.
>
>
>
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> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 7:32, Bruce Wernek
> <bruce.wernek at verizon.net> wrote:
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