[RP TownTalk] EXT : Proposed "Voter Expansion" legislation

[Dwight Holmes]

There's a lot of interesting data out there, much of courtesy of Uncle Sam.
This is an interactive chart (click on ethnic/foreign- and native-born
groups on the right to change what appears on the chart)
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2013/ted_20130528.htm

>From this I learned that the labor force participation rate for people 16
yrs and older (i.e, people who either are working or are seeking work) for
Foreign-born Hispanics 69%
Native-born Hispanics 60%
Foreign-born Blacks 71%
Native-born Blacks 60%

Foreign-born people (25+ yrs) w/less than high school diploma 60%
Native-born people (25+ yrs) w/less than high school diploma 37%

My only point being, the idea that immigrants are somehow shiftless and
lazy is simply bullpucky.

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"A budget is a moral document." --Jim Wallis

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Aunt Emily <ourdollmom at aol.com> wrote:

> Thank you Dwight for bringing to people's attention the false
> misconceptions about immigrants.  This was needed.
>
> In a message dated 3/9/2018 10:40:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> dwightrholmes at gmail.com writes:
>
> I see I neglected to include the link to the unemployment rate news
> release I mentioned. It is here: https://www.bls.gov/
> news.release/pdf/forbrn.pdf
>
> _____________________________________
> "A budget is a moral document." --Jim Wallis
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Dwight Holmes <dwightrholmes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually, it's quite the opposite.  Benefits such as TANF, social
>> security disability, etc. are not available to non-citizens. And they do
>> pay taxes. The most recent estimate I could find for Maryland is that
>> undocumented residents of Maryland paid over $332 million per year in state
>> and local taxes in Maryland (https://itep.org/immigration/) They pay
>> sales taxes, gasoline and other excise taxes, property taxes (either
>> directly as property owners or indirectly as renters). And if they do work
>> with a false social security number then they pay payroll taxes (social
>> security and medicare) for benefits they can never receive, and may de
>> facto pay income taxes through payroll withholding.
>>
>> Every study I've seen has found that immigrants commit fewer crimes and
>> are as likely (if not more likely) to be employed than those of us who were
>> born here.  A quick Google search found this news release from Bureau of
>> Labor Statistics from about a year ago, reporting that the unemployment
>> rate among foreign-born residents was 4.3% while at the time the rate for
>> native-born residents was 5.0%.
>>
>> I have not weighed in on the issue of whether or not to extend the right
>> to vote in local elections to our noncitizen residents, but I found myself
>> unable to let such false assertions as these go without a response.
>>
>> Dwight Holmes
>>
>>
>> _____________________________________
>> "A budget is a moral document." --Jim Wallis
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:01 AM, McDougall, Sherene [US] (Law) <
>> Sherene.McDougall at ngc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They don’t want to become citizens because that would mean getting a job
>>> and having to pay taxes.   Why go through all that hassle to become a
>>> citizen when they are receiving food, money, housing and education.  Things
>>> that we taxpayers are paying for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sherene
>>>
>>> *From:* towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org [mailto:
>>> towntalk-bounces at riverdale-park.org] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Wernek
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018 9:41 AM
>>> *To:* towntalk at riverdale-park.org; townannounce at riverdale-park.org
>>> *Subject:* EXT :[RP TownTalk] Proposed "Voter Expansion" legislation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The proposed "Voter Expansion" legislation appears to patently
>>> marginalize town residents and US citizens in general.  If I understand it
>>> correctly, a non citizen can break the law, illegally enter our country,
>>> and 6 weeks later be rewarded for doing so with the right vote our Town.
>>> Essentially, there are no requirements for voting privileges other than
>>> being 18 years of age or older and being a "resident" of Riverdale Park for
>>> 30 days.  I don't think the bar could be much lower.  Given this proposed
>>> legislation, one has to wonder, what benefit is there in being a long time
>>> resident committed to the Town, a tax payer, and a US citizen?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I find it hard to believe this legislation wasn't patently rejected by
>>> our Mayor and Council much less drawn up in the first place.  If non
>>> citizens want the right to vote, they have to demonstrate their commitment
>>> to our Town and country by becoming naturalized citizens.  My grandparents
>>> and father did.  Why don't these people have to?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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